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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scipio202" data-source="post: 4124169" data-attributes="member: 63152">Keith Baker <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=4121635&postcount=188" target="_blank">suggested</a> that "minion" status isn't necessarily supposed to imply a physical condition where a pin prick will kill you, but is rather a book keeping, "rules shortcut for interacting with the world" statement.  Being an Xth level minion monster may simply mean that their challenge level is so low for an Xth level PC that it's not worth bothering to track the damage, since they're likely to be one-shotted anyways.  So a regular 1st level monster wouldn't be a minion for a 1st level PC, but might be one for a 15th level character.  Likewise, since higher level minions *are* listed with HPs, a 10th level minion could be used as a "real" monster for a 1st level party.Since commoners are likely to be minions, if they get in a brawl they can hit each other without autokilling (or auto-knocking out) each other, since they aren't minions with respect to each other.  But if the 5th level PCs get involved, we assume for simplicity that they can knock the commoner out easily as soon as they hit them.</blockquote>