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<blockquote data-quote="Praesul" data-source="post: 4484837" data-attributes="member: 66725">In reply to <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/members/keterys.html" target="_blank">Keterys</a>:I honestly have not had a lot of experience playing with minions above heroic levels as the group I DM only meets once a month and we rotate through a couple campaigns, so we haven't exactly progressed far yet.I still think minions would serve their intended purpose at these levels.&nbsp; What is that purpose?&nbsp; To use up a standard action or three in an encounter or allows PCs to be rewarded for their ability/equipment/class choices.&nbsp; Minions are not supposed to be the meat and potatoes of encounters.&nbsp; Minions are supposed to be there to make the PCs just think for an additional few seconds when planning how to engage the enemy.&nbsp; PCs know that minions hurt just as much as most other bad guys, so they can't simply ignore them.&nbsp; That requires just enough actions on the part of the PCs to give the encounter a few more points of challenge while at the same time making things more interesting.Minions also require the DM to deploy enemies creatively in encounters.You are right though, dropping minions out of encounters entirely would also be a nerf, I hadn't considered that and it would change the system up.In the end, I think my final statement (albeit slightly revised) still holds true.&nbsp; To each his own.&nbsp; If you feel modifying the rules for minions will benefit your game then by all means.&nbsp; My intention in replying is simply to restate the fact that some PCs may not appreciate the change, and in the end we all DM for the players enjoyment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Praesul, post: 4484837, member: 66725"] In reply to [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/members/keterys.html"]Keterys[/URL]: I honestly have not had a lot of experience playing with minions above heroic levels as the group I DM only meets once a month and we rotate through a couple campaigns, so we haven't exactly progressed far yet. I still think minions would serve their intended purpose at these levels. What is that purpose? To use up a standard action or three in an encounter or allows PCs to be rewarded for their ability/equipment/class choices. Minions are not supposed to be the meat and potatoes of encounters. Minions are supposed to be there to make the PCs just think for an additional few seconds when planning how to engage the enemy. PCs know that minions hurt just as much as most other bad guys, so they can't simply ignore them. That requires just enough actions on the part of the PCs to give the encounter a few more points of challenge while at the same time making things more interesting. Minions also require the DM to deploy enemies creatively in encounters. You are right though, dropping minions out of encounters entirely would also be a nerf, I hadn't considered that and it would change the system up. In the end, I think my final statement (albeit slightly revised) still holds true. To each his own. If you feel modifying the rules for minions will benefit your game then by all means. My intention in replying is simply to restate the fact that some PCs may not appreciate the change, and in the end we all DM for the players enjoyment. [/QUOTE]

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