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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Switchback" data-source="post: 4387441" data-attributes="member: 69793">You are really missing my point there by virtually saying everything off camera is DM fiat. That goes without saying. But it doesn't add much to the discussion really.It *is* important for people to understand if minions exist as creatures apart from fighting the players. Because players might have to track down the results of Legion Devils destroying a town, if they can't exist except in fighting the players, then how did that happen? If a DM doesn't understand that he can use these creatures in other ways, then he is misunderstanding the ecology of the Monsters.You might fashion an adventure where a group of Vampire Spawn attacks a campsite of NPC's and the players have to track them back to their lord's castle. If the a DM thinks Vampire Spawn don't exist, can't exist, except in a battle, then he cannot even create that scenario. Because it is not very fitting with something a much more powerful Vampire Lord is going to be doing. We are talking at the nuts and bolts level of practicality here not D&D philosophy about how a Orc becomes dust and wind once he goes around the corner into a shadow.</blockquote>