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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AllOlive" data-source="post: 8226711" data-attributes="member: 7030096">Just to be clear: I didn't reduce advantage/disadvantage to a step on this ladder, I just suggested that in addition to its normal effects, it should change the boundaries of the ladder.But yes, this is probably overcomplicated.On the other hand, the "guidance should be an actual bonus, not just a potential one" is exactly my argument for this kind of system. That is, I think the ideal situation is the opposite of what you say. The problem to be avoided is if stacking a bunch of bonuses gives you a guaranteed outcome; that ends up pitting your rules-crafting fun (look at all these bonuses!) against your fun at the table (You succeed. Again. Yawn.). This is exactly the kind of situation that comes up in Pathfinder more than it should, and occasionally in 5e (with belts of giant strength, or the new "bonus to spell DC" magic items). So I think 1d8 is far better than 2d4 from that perspective.</blockquote>