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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 6853330" data-attributes="member: 5890">Cantrips do enough damage to kill a man, create real objects (prestidigitation can produce anything that fits in your hand, bonfire creates a real bonfire), make 5' cubes of water reshape themselves and then turn to 5' cubes of ice, dig 5' pits etc.But apparently making a realistic looking mirror is beyond the pale. Oh think of the children!... a reflection in a mirror IS reflected light. What you are saying is that you can't make a realistic looking illusion of anything shiny. Because that would be overpowered, or something.And now apparently you're keen to say that illusions don't respond to moving light sources. At what point do you just ban illusion spells so players don't take the trap option?No, the implication is gotten through reading another illusion spell and deciding that since minor illusion does not have some text from that spell, it cannot create illusions that have any movement. I've already shown that the reading makes no sense, because that text isn't present in most illusion spells, which would render many of them non-functional.So would you say that you can create an appearance of depth without the physical space for that depth to fit in (ie - can you create a roadrunner-style fake tunnel on a wall?)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 6853330, member: 5890"] Cantrips do enough damage to kill a man, create real objects (prestidigitation can produce anything that fits in your hand, bonfire creates a real bonfire), make 5' cubes of water reshape themselves and then turn to 5' cubes of ice, dig 5' pits etc. But apparently making a realistic looking mirror is beyond the pale. Oh think of the children! ... a reflection in a mirror IS reflected light. What you are saying is that you can't make a realistic looking illusion of anything shiny. Because that would be overpowered, or something. And now apparently you're keen to say that illusions don't respond to moving light sources. At what point do you just ban illusion spells so players don't take the trap option? No, the implication is gotten through reading another illusion spell and deciding that since minor illusion does not have some text from that spell, it cannot create illusions that have any movement. I've already shown that the reading makes no sense, because that text isn't present in most illusion spells, which would render many of them non-functional. So would you say that you can create an appearance of depth without the physical space for that depth to fit in (ie - can you create a roadrunner-style fake tunnel on a wall?) [/QUOTE]

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