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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tormyr" data-source="post: 6592497" data-attributes="member: 6776887">Regarding the light, I can totally buy that the light still shines through, and the effect of the light source (lighted objects in the room) is readily visible to all.However minor illusionstill seems like it needs to be mind affecting to some degree because two different creatures can investigate it, one makes the Intelligence (Investigation) check and sees through it (literally), while the other fails the check and sees a solid object. The creature who passes the check realizes that it is an illusion and can see through it, but that does not change the nature of the illusion for everyone else.  The other creature keeps on staring at a solid box until they interact with it or pass a check. Even when viewed from a far distance, there is something about viewing an illusion that causes the brain to throw an exception, at least temporarily.So from hearing the feedback, I think it could make sense to have the room lit as normal, and the shadows in the room indicate that the light source is the box. The color of the light, intensity, and everything else about the light should not change.  If it is a particularly bright light, it may even be a little painful to look at the box. Or if the illusion was an awning outside on a bright day, if the sun was on the other side of the illusion, the viewer might have a chance of blinding itself if it does not look away from the underside of the awning. This ruling might also make sense because otherwise minor illusion could encroach a little on the darkness spell if the illusion can actually block light.I appreciate these discussions.  It is nice to work through this stuff ahead of time rather than to have to come up with a ruling at the table that may not be completely though through.So how does this sound: The illusion is there, but it blocks no light. The illusion tricks the viewer's mind into thinking there is something there.</blockquote>

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