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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6593493" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Of course not, because you're trying to make a modern understanding of light conform to a magical one (or vice versa... or something like that).</p><p></p><p>Consider this. Not so very long ago, before Newton wrote the Principia, reasonably well educated 'natural philosophers' believed that we see, not by receiving light wavicles being re-emitted by surfaces that just absorbed them in some quantum-mechanical shooting gallery, nor even by receiving light waves propagated through the circumambient luminiferous ether, but by actually emitting rays from our eyes - your actual 'gaze' - and seeing what those rays contacted (with or without the idea that they bounce back to your eyes). You didn't need light to see because you needed a source of photons, but because light repelled darkness, and darkness was opaque to your gaze (unless, of course, you have darkvision).</p><p></p><p>Now, crazy and unsupportable a theory as that may be to modern experimentation, it happens to neatly answer the minor illusion question. It illusion around the torch doesn't block the light of the torch, because it's not real, the light of the torch chases the darkness of the room into shadows and corners, like always, and people who enter the room can see just fine. They just don't see what's chasing all the darkness away, which is a little weird - but, hey, they live in a magical universe, a little weird really isn't - but they do see a box, because their gaze falls on the box and is deceived by the magic of the illusion. When they save, their gaze can penetrate the illusion, and the box no longer looks solid.</p><p></p><p>(In addition, this crazy old theory obviously explains why you can 'feel someone watching you,' because their gaze is physically touching you. Light, darkness, and the gaze of a living creature are all essentially real things. Also works for rationalizing the behavior of gaze weapons. )</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6593493, member: 996"] Of course not, because you're trying to make a modern understanding of light conform to a magical one (or vice versa... or something like that). Consider this. Not so very long ago, before Newton wrote the Principia, reasonably well educated 'natural philosophers' believed that we see, not by receiving light wavicles being re-emitted by surfaces that just absorbed them in some quantum-mechanical shooting gallery, nor even by receiving light waves propagated through the circumambient luminiferous ether, but by actually emitting rays from our eyes - your actual 'gaze' - and seeing what those rays contacted (with or without the idea that they bounce back to your eyes). You didn't need light to see because you needed a source of photons, but because light repelled darkness, and darkness was opaque to your gaze (unless, of course, you have darkvision). Now, crazy and unsupportable a theory as that may be to modern experimentation, it happens to neatly answer the minor illusion question. It illusion around the torch doesn't block the light of the torch, because it's not real, the light of the torch chases the darkness of the room into shadows and corners, like always, and people who enter the room can see just fine. They just don't see what's chasing all the darkness away, which is a little weird - but, hey, they live in a magical universe, a little weird really isn't - but they do see a box, because their gaze falls on the box and is deceived by the magic of the illusion. When they save, their gaze can penetrate the illusion, and the box no longer looks solid. (In addition, this crazy old theory obviously explains why you can 'feel someone watching you,' because their gaze is physically touching you. Light, darkness, and the gaze of a living creature are all essentially real things. Also works for rationalizing the behavior of gaze weapons. ) [/QUOTE]
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