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<blockquote data-quote="Garnath" data-source="post: 4415361" data-attributes="member: 75095">Hey(Edited to 4th edition <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )Im about to build a Paladin (Minotaur) so he is going the Str based (I dont see a Mino with 14 or less in str<img src="http://forums.gleemax.com/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />) and shiny Lawfull good. When I read about STR-Paladin attacks, prayers/encounter in PH, it seems like the Str. based Pals has no goodies for many levels, so I might start with a dip with a Cleric... And it here I need help!!!Str based (Avenging Paladin - Champion of Order or ?) I have these stat to start out with (these are not incl race bonus)16 14 13 12 11 10 (Minotaur gets +2 in Str and Con as extra)So: my proposed STR Pal lv 10:Minotaur (Paladin 10)Str 19 (16 +2 race +1 lv 8 bonus)Con 12 (10 + 2 race)Dex 11Int 10Wis 14&nbsp; (13 +1 lv 4 bonus)Cha 14 Feats:Power Attack&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +2 damage for -2 attack&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Improved Initiative&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4 Initiative&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Weapon Focus Hammer+1 damage.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Alertness&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No combat advantage when surprised, +2 Perception Initiate of the Faith? (nedd one more)--------------------At Will Powers:Valiant Strike (Paladin)Holy Strike (Paladin)Encounter Lv1 + Lv3 + Lv7:Wrathful Thunder (Cleric 1) ??Piercing Smite (Pal 1)Spilt the sky (cleric 3)Daily lv1 + Lv5:Avenging Flame (Cleric 1) ??? (nedd one more)? (nedd one more)Utillity 1 + 6 + 10:Bless (Cleric 1) ???? (need one more)? (need one moreRacial:Ferocity: Make basic melee attack on death.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Oversized: Use larger weapons as your size.Goring Charge: Does 1d6+Str and knocks target prone.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -any guidance/critique will be much appreciated <img src="http://forums.gleemax.com/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />G</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garnath, post: 4415361, member: 75095"] Hey (Edited to 4th edition ;) ) Im about to build a Paladin (Minotaur) so he is going the Str based (I dont see a Mino with 14 or less in str[IMG]http://forums.gleemax.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]) and shiny Lawfull good. When I read about STR-Paladin attacks, prayers/encounter in PH, it seems like the Str. based Pals has no goodies for many levels, so I might start with a dip with a Cleric... And it here I need help!!! Str based (Avenging Paladin - Champion of Order or ?) I have these stat to start out with (these are not incl race bonus) 16 14 13 12 11 10 (Minotaur gets +2 in Str and Con as extra) So: my proposed STR Pal lv 10: Minotaur (Paladin 10) Str 19 (16 +2 race +1 lv 8 bonus) Con 12 (10 + 2 race) Dex 11 Int 10 Wis 14 (13 +1 lv 4 bonus) Cha 14 Feats: Power Attack +2 damage for -2 attack Improved Initiative +4 Initiative Weapon Focus Hammer +1 damage. Alertness No combat advantage when surprised, +2 Perception Initiate of the Faith ? (nedd one more) -------------------- At Will Powers: Valiant Strike (Paladin) Holy Strike (Paladin) Encounter Lv1 + Lv3 + Lv7: Wrathful Thunder (Cleric 1) ?? Piercing Smite (Pal 1) Spilt the sky (cleric 3) Daily lv1 + Lv5: Avenging Flame (Cleric 1) ?? ? (nedd one more) ? (nedd one more) Utillity 1 + 6 + 10: Bless (Cleric 1) ??? ? (need one more) ? (need one more Racial: Ferocity: Make basic melee attack on death. Oversized: Use larger weapons as your size. Goring Charge: Does 1d6+Str and knocks target prone. -any guidance/critique will be much appreciated [IMG]http://forums.gleemax.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG] G [/QUOTE]

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