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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2344791" data-attributes="member: 19675">ZuulMog, my mind is completely open on this.  In fact, if you would use YOUR brain, you might notice that I support MM destroying MI images.What I'm trying to do is find a way to adjudicate this in a way that is both fair and internally consistent, and works with whatver combo of illusions and targeted spells we can find.I would prefer a solution that does not violate GENERAL targeting rules for the purpose of this one problem.My solution was to alter the PARTICULAR targeting rules of MM- namely to allow the MM caster to target anything he believes to be a creature.I believe this is a superior path.  The attack spell doesn't fizzle, and treats all potential targets identically.  Meanwhile, illusions are meaningful- they act and react as if real until the illusion is disrupted.You could argue that this is like targeting the dog with a charm spell, but there, you're trying to affect the wrong kind of mind...its like giving someone instructions in a language they don't understand.All that said, there is absolutely no conundrum in having the missiles that target images simply fizzle and the one that targets the mage actually work.The conundrum only arises because there is probably a long standing and broad history of allowing MM to target MI images, despite targeting rules.In law, we call this a "conflict of laws" problem.  Either it gets resolved heirarchically (one set of rules trumps the other) OR it gets revised by those who drafted the rules in the first place.These 2 spells have been D&D staples for 27 years.  It isn't my fault 1) either some game designer got too cute and hyperspecific and hasn't sussed out that there's a problem or 2) TSR/WoTC haven't published explicit errata*.*That assumes that this hasn't been addressed in 27 years of Sage Advice columns- which I DO have on hand, but don't have the time to go through right now.You know, we could aways ask the Colonel...</blockquote>

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