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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 2095600" data-attributes="member: 545">Yes, the images are affected by spells that change appearance of the wizard in question.&nbsp; But do they gain all the advantages of every spell?&nbsp; No.Do these images gain the advantage of Stoneskin?&nbsp; Fireshield?&nbsp; Shield?&nbsp; Mage Armor?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; So we only care about visual effects.But an image is only an image.&nbsp; It does not make sense to talk about the &quot;apparent&quot; location of an image and the &quot;real&quot; location of an image.&nbsp; The images apparent location is always an images real location.I also think that when you have two different effects that may stack and you get two very different answers depending on which order that is applied, you have to be very careful.&nbsp; Very likely they should not stack at all.I cast Mirror Image.&nbsp; Then I cast Invisibility.&nbsp; You attack me.&nbsp; You defeat Concealment.&nbsp; Now do you roll to see if you hit an invisible image instead of an invisible me?&nbsp; Or do you roll to see if you hit an invisible image before rolling concealment?&nbsp; Neither makes much sense.&nbsp; The most sensible answer is to say that the invisible images do not exist at all with respect to someone who cannot see the invisible.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 2095600, member: 545"] Yes, the images are affected by spells that change appearance of the wizard in question. But do they gain all the advantages of every spell? No. Do these images gain the advantage of Stoneskin? Fireshield? Shield? Mage Armor? No. So we only care about visual effects. But an image is only an image. It does not make sense to talk about the "apparent" location of an image and the "real" location of an image. The images apparent location [i]is always[/i] an images real location. I also think that when you have two different effects that [i]may[/i] stack and you get two very different answers depending on which order that is applied, you have to be very careful. Very likely they should not stack at all. I cast Mirror Image. Then I cast Invisibility. You attack me. You defeat Concealment. Now do you roll to see if you hit an invisible image instead of an invisible me? Or do you roll to see if you hit an invisible image [i]before[/i] rolling concealment? Neither makes much sense. The most sensible answer is to say that the invisible images do not exist at all with respect to someone who cannot see the invisible. [/QUOTE]

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