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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stamhaven" data-source="post: 1246727" data-attributes="member: 13843">I know glamers are about 50/50 on which mention disbelief saves but Mirror Image is a figment and every single other figment I've ever found mentions a disbelief save except this one.  If mirror image said save: none it'd be clear but it just doesn't adress it.  In the absence of an entry I look for a more general rule for that type of spell or other similar spells as examples (all other).  The general Illusion mentions disbelieving as a save but isn't specific enough to know which types it applies to and not, while the other examples of figments are overwhelmingly indicating a save.Without a save or any mundane way to dispel multiples at a time (explicit exception from area effects) it seems over powered to me.  I'm just comparing it to things like other figments and for balance issues other defensive glamers like displacement and blur.  Blurr lasts longer (though usually will be limited to still just 1 fight) but only has a 20% miss which pales in comparison to the defensive value of the figments.  While displacement offers a 50% miss chance, has the same duration, and is higher level is only better than Mirror Image in longer fights (IMO around double the number of figments in rounds depending on the number of attacks).  I know that a figment is easier to hit than with blurr or displacement but dex (for some strange reason since it implies jumping out of the way of attacks on behalf of your figments) still helps.  With a save the power level gets toned down considerably and seems more reasonible in my opinion especially at higher levels.  Wizards seem stuck with this spell trying to keep  it true to it's first edition roots with the stuff about physical hits dispelling other illusions and such, but the easy way to do that would be to make them out of shadow so that actual contact with it could reasonibly have a tangeble effect.  I've seen nothing but rudeness and hasty (and faulty) replies to the same question on the wizards' board.  I'm hoping for some courteous opinions on the subject or a mention of an eratta/official ruling I'd not seen from here.</blockquote>

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