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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Urbannen" data-source="post: 1250194" data-attributes="member: 7643">I understand how D&D defines these kinds of magic, but Figments do have a mental component.  They are not holograms.  Consider how they work.  Three people encounter the figment of a dire wolf.  All three see the same thing.  The figment dire wolf is guarding the entrance to a cave.  After interacting with the figment, one person makes his Will save.  For him and only him, the dire wolf becomes transparent.  That person can now see into the cave and spy a frightened gnome illusionist hiding there.  His comrades cannot see into the cave, because the Figment of the dire wolf is blocking their view.  If the figment acted as a true hologram, realizing that it was unreal would still not allow you to see through it.  Additionally, it does not make a lot of sense to make a Will save to realize that a hologram isn't real.  Creatures make Will saves to avoid a magical force that acts upon their minds.  A hologram has an existence outside the minds of its observers.  The only Illusion spells I can think of that have an existence outside the mind of their observers (i.e., don't allow a save) are most Glamer spells, such as Invisibility and Change Self.  Even though an observer might realize a Glamer is in effect, that doesn't mean that he can see through the Glamer.  I think it would make sense to have a class of illusions called Figments, which affect the minds of observers in a similar way, and Glamers, which produce holographic effects.</blockquote>

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