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<blockquote data-quote="stamhaven" data-source="post: 1255804" data-attributes="member: 13843"><p>I think the reason people don't think concealment appies to other targeted spells is that the description of concealment specifies that it applies to sucsessful attacks. If they'd wanted it to apply to any type of targeting thing it would be worded differently. The invisibility description indicates targeting a spell in general counting as an attack is a exception used just for invisibility.</p><p></p><p>from the SRD></p><p>Concealment Miss Chance: Concealment gives the subject of a successful attack a 20% chance that the attacker missed because of the concealment. If the attacker hits, the defender must make a miss chance percentile roll to avoid being struck. Multiple concealment conditions do not stack</p><p></p><p></p><p>I definitely lean towards Voadam's version of disbelief refrencing a search check and a full round action drawing an AoO (if you can find a secret door in 6 seconds then getting a chance to recignize an illusion in a similar fasion seems reasonible). Any other opinions?</p><p></p><p>Blurr does have those minor advantages over MI but the vast difference in miss chance (@6 images it's a sliding 86-50%) dwarfs the 20% benefit of blur both at low level and at high level. The ability to cast it on others and hide options are what make it a viable option IMO when compared to a MI with a save. Without a save for MI it's a very rare/long combat for a wizard where they'd rather have blurr over MI for themselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stamhaven, post: 1255804, member: 13843"] I think the reason people don't think concealment appies to other targeted spells is that the description of concealment specifies that it applies to sucsessful attacks. If they'd wanted it to apply to any type of targeting thing it would be worded differently. The invisibility description indicates targeting a spell in general counting as an attack is a exception used just for invisibility. from the SRD> Concealment Miss Chance: Concealment gives the subject of a successful attack a 20% chance that the attacker missed because of the concealment. If the attacker hits, the defender must make a miss chance percentile roll to avoid being struck. Multiple concealment conditions do not stack I definitely lean towards Voadam's version of disbelief refrencing a search check and a full round action drawing an AoO (if you can find a secret door in 6 seconds then getting a chance to recignize an illusion in a similar fasion seems reasonible). Any other opinions? Blurr does have those minor advantages over MI but the vast difference in miss chance (@6 images it's a sliding 86-50%) dwarfs the 20% benefit of blur both at low level and at high level. The ability to cast it on others and hide options are what make it a viable option IMO when compared to a MI with a save. Without a save for MI it's a very rare/long combat for a wizard where they'd rather have blurr over MI for themselves. [/QUOTE]
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