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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1082325" data-attributes="member: 1656">Ah!&nbsp; Well, in that case... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I reject the FAQ ruling as unsupported by the text of the Core rules.There is nothing in them to suggest that flanking is dependent upon the perception of the defender... except that certain abnormally perceptive cretures (Eyes in the Back of your Head feat, Beholder, etc) have specific abilities that prevent them being flanked.However, unless there is a special ability in play, then you are flanking any time you make a melee attack against a creature, and an ally directly opposite is threatening the same creature.There is nothing outside of the FAQ to support the idea that the defender must be able to perceive that ally.So yes, as a DM, if someone was flanked by two invisible opponents, I would give both of those opponents +2 for being invisible and +2 for flanking (assuming no Uncanny Dodge involved).I don't consider it within the FAQ's jurisdiction to make up new rules unless it acknowledges the existing rules to be in error.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1082325, member: 1656"] Ah! Well, in that case... :) I reject the FAQ ruling as unsupported by the text of the Core rules. There is nothing in them to suggest that flanking is dependent upon the perception of the defender... except that certain abnormally perceptive cretures (Eyes in the Back of your Head feat, Beholder, etc) have specific abilities that prevent them being flanked. However, unless there is a special ability in play, then you are flanking any time you make a melee attack against a creature, and an ally directly opposite is threatening the same creature. There is nothing outside of the FAQ to support the idea that the defender must be able to perceive that ally. So yes, as a DM, if someone was flanked by two invisible opponents, I would give both of those opponents +2 for being invisible [i]and[/i] +2 for flanking (assuming no Uncanny Dodge involved). I don't consider it within the FAQ's jurisdiction to make up new rules unless it acknowledges the existing rules to be in error. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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