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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 2680915" data-attributes="member: 6939">That is the theory... sort of... but that is not what happened. This is in no way a 'clarification', it is a 'change'. And they don't even label it as a change, they seem to treat it as if that is what the rules say, and they are simply clarifying. They give no indication that they are even aware that it is a change.Does this mean that *just* Mirror images are affected? What about other illusions? Can you now cleave off of objects? Are mirror images now treated like creatures? Can you polymorph them?They don't get into *why* they ruled, which indicates to me that they don't realize they have made a change....Sigg, it is interesting to me that you have gone through a whole list of reasons, and they keep get shot down, and then you come up with another reason..... If you are willing to except the rule 'clarifications' from the FAQ, even when they are rules 'changes', that is fine. But you are really grasping at straws for much of your positions at this point.And I would like to highlight what Hyp has said.Feats tell you what you can do, you can only do what they say.Cleave says you can get a benefit from attacking a creature.It does not say you can get a benefit from attacking an object.It does not say you can get a benefit from yelling very loud.It does not say you can get a benefit from using an axe.So you are saying "Since it doesn't say I *can't* benefit from attacking an object, that means I *can* benefit from attacking an object.Now the player next to you. ""Since it doesn't say I *can't* benefit from yelling very loud, that means I *can* benefit from yelling very loud.Then the next player "Since it doesn't say I *can't* benefit from using an axe, that means I *can* benefit from using an axe.Do you see the logic flaw? Feats say you can do extra things, just because a feat doesn't say you can't fly, doesn't mean you can fly.And if the rules state that all creatures must have a wisdom and charisma score, how can you argue that they don't need one? And if you agree with this rule, what wisdom and charisma score do the figments have?</blockquote>

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