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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowdweller" data-source="post: 2682760" data-attributes="member: 14563"><p>That is fully correct. And any attempts to say otherwise must perforce be....</p><p></p><p>...a House Rule <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /> </p><p></p><p> And that is what you are so fond of accusing others of...a non sequitur (at least I THINK it's you. If I'm confusing you with someone else in this matter...my apologies). </p><p></p><p>The assumption that unreal = no wisdom score is wholly without support in the RAW. The simple fact is that all you who say otherwise have simply decided so because it doesn't fit your sense of metaphysical reality. The rules, however, don't HAVE to fit your sense of metaphysical reality. (And the state of being unreal within that metaphysical reality should clue one into to something being different anyway). </p><p></p><p>Contend this? Check out that thread regarding Horrid Wilting and Fire Elementals. By making the assumption that something unreal cannot have a wisdom score you are doing the EXACT same thing as ruling that Fire Elementals don't have any moisture in them.</p><p></p><p>(And if you've got no problem with doing that, hey, more power to you. But stop claiming it's part of the RAW)</p><p></p><p> Ah, but if your interpretation IS correct regarding whether figments are objects then we have the case that the images ARE objects. So far so good. But the spell specifically makes anyone who attacks the caster confuse these objects with the caster. Which it cannot do by the RAW because figments cannot used to make something look like something else.</p><p></p><p> In which you've made a judgement call based on what -you- personally consider reasonable. A decision that may be the exact opposite of what other people play with...all fully following the RAW. That is, by definition, a House Rule.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowdweller, post: 2682760, member: 14563"] That is fully correct. And any attempts to say otherwise must perforce be.... ...a House Rule :] And that is what you are so fond of accusing others of...a non sequitur (at least I THINK it's you. If I'm confusing you with someone else in this matter...my apologies). The assumption that unreal = no wisdom score is wholly without support in the RAW. The simple fact is that all you who say otherwise have simply decided so because it doesn't fit your sense of metaphysical reality. The rules, however, don't HAVE to fit your sense of metaphysical reality. (And the state of being unreal within that metaphysical reality should clue one into to something being different anyway). Contend this? Check out that thread regarding Horrid Wilting and Fire Elementals. By making the assumption that something unreal cannot have a wisdom score you are doing the EXACT same thing as ruling that Fire Elementals don't have any moisture in them. (And if you've got no problem with doing that, hey, more power to you. But stop claiming it's part of the RAW) Ah, but if your interpretation IS correct regarding whether figments are objects then we have the case that the images ARE objects. So far so good. But the spell specifically makes anyone who attacks the caster confuse these objects with the caster. Which it cannot do by the RAW because figments cannot used to make something look like something else. In which you've made a judgement call based on what -you- personally consider reasonable. A decision that may be the exact opposite of what other people play with...all fully following the RAW. That is, by definition, a House Rule. [/QUOTE]
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