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<blockquote data-quote="OB1" data-source="post: 7324038" data-attributes="member: 6796241">Targeting with an attack is a specific case of mirror image, but you are ignoring the general rule that comes before it as well as the general rule within Hold Person.&nbsp; Just because the Mirror Image spell tells you specifically what happens when someone makes an attack doesn't mean that the spell doesn't do anything in other cirucmstances.&nbsp; You go back to the general rule for those other rulings.Mirror Image - Three illusory duplicates of yourself appear in your space.&nbsp; Until the spell ends.... it is impossible to track which image is real.Hold Person - Choose a humanoid that you can see within range.For Hold Person to work, you must choose 1 humanoid within range.&nbsp; Mirror Image creates three duplicates that make it impossible to tell which is the real one.&nbsp; In order for the Hold Person to affect the Mirror Imaged person, you must guess the correct image to cast the spell on (unless you have an ability that can see through the mirror image).&nbsp; Since this isn't specifically covered by the Mirror Image spell, you could either use the same mechanic it gives for attacking or pick another way to resolve whether the Hold Person caster picked the correct image.&nbsp; Of course, the DM could also rule that the caster of Hold Person is able to sense which of the duplicates is real somehow, and it would be a valid ruling, and should apply to all similar cases.Let's take another example.&nbsp; If a caster used Major Image to create a duplicate of herself 30 feet away, and the enemy cast Hold Person, how would you resolve that?&nbsp; If the illusory duplicate were targeted, would the caster be able to auto sense that she was trying to Hold Person against an illusion, and then retarget to the other?&nbsp; Or would the spell fizzle because she choose a non humanoid as a target?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="OB1, post: 7324038, member: 6796241"] Targeting with an attack is a specific case of mirror image, but you are ignoring the general rule that comes before it as well as the general rule within Hold Person. Just because the Mirror Image spell tells you specifically what happens when someone makes an attack doesn't mean that the spell doesn't do anything in other cirucmstances. You go back to the general rule for those other rulings. Mirror Image - Three illusory duplicates of yourself appear in your space. Until the spell ends.... it is impossible to track which image is real. Hold Person - Choose a humanoid that you can see within range. For Hold Person to work, you must choose 1 humanoid within range. Mirror Image creates three duplicates that make it impossible to tell which is the real one. In order for the Hold Person to affect the Mirror Imaged person, you must guess the correct image to cast the spell on (unless you have an ability that can see through the mirror image). Since this isn't specifically covered by the Mirror Image spell, you could either use the same mechanic it gives for attacking or pick another way to resolve whether the Hold Person caster picked the correct image. Of course, the DM could also rule that the caster of Hold Person is able to sense which of the duplicates is real somehow, and it would be a valid ruling, and should apply to all similar cases. Let's take another example. If a caster used Major Image to create a duplicate of herself 30 feet away, and the enemy cast Hold Person, how would you resolve that? If the illusory duplicate were targeted, would the caster be able to auto sense that she was trying to Hold Person against an illusion, and then retarget to the other? Or would the spell fizzle because she choose a non humanoid as a target? [/QUOTE]

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