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Mirror Image vs. Hold Person (and other non-targeting attacks)
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<blockquote data-quote="OB1" data-source="post: 7324132" data-attributes="member: 6796241"><p>I'm not arguing that spells without attack rolls are attacks. The spell description clearly describes how to resolve an attack against someone who cast mirror image. Please note that my use of caps below isn't to shout, but to emphasize the key words.</p><p></p><p>Hold Person clearly states that you TARGET a humanoid you can SEE within range. With mirror image cast, it is "impossible to track which image is real." You have to choose which image to TARGET with your hold person spell, which is done by SIGHT. If you do not TARGET the actual caster, the spell fails. So the DM must rule on whether the caster has picked the real caster as the TARGET. The Mirror image spell doesn't describe how to resolve that, so it's up to the DM. </p><p></p><p>The fact that the spell description explains what to do in the SPECIFIC instance of an ATTACK against the caster does not override the other GENERAL rules for choosing a TARGET in the Hold Person spell description and the inability for others to distinguish which of the casters the opponent sees is the actual caster.</p><p></p><p>The bottom line is that casting Hold Person against a humanoid with Mirror Image active will require a DM ruling, it is not explicit within the rules. And that's what 5e is all about!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OB1, post: 7324132, member: 6796241"] I'm not arguing that spells without attack rolls are attacks. The spell description clearly describes how to resolve an attack against someone who cast mirror image. Please note that my use of caps below isn't to shout, but to emphasize the key words. Hold Person clearly states that you TARGET a humanoid you can SEE within range. With mirror image cast, it is "impossible to track which image is real." You have to choose which image to TARGET with your hold person spell, which is done by SIGHT. If you do not TARGET the actual caster, the spell fails. So the DM must rule on whether the caster has picked the real caster as the TARGET. The Mirror image spell doesn't describe how to resolve that, so it's up to the DM. The fact that the spell description explains what to do in the SPECIFIC instance of an ATTACK against the caster does not override the other GENERAL rules for choosing a TARGET in the Hold Person spell description and the inability for others to distinguish which of the casters the opponent sees is the actual caster. The bottom line is that casting Hold Person against a humanoid with Mirror Image active will require a DM ruling, it is not explicit within the rules. And that's what 5e is all about! [/QUOTE]
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