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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MwaO" data-source="post: 6703453" data-attributes="member: 12749">ControllersIn general, Controllers work best with Leader or Striker as their other half. They've usually been too dinged on defensive values to be any good at doing Defender and by picking Controller, they're often exchanging somewhat significant class features for additional power choice. As Wizard is usually going to be one of the choices and has so many great powers, this usually results in a net negative(though in the case of the Invoker|Wizard, a small net negative) - needs to be said, though - Wizard doesn't have a lot of great powers in Heroic and a couple of other classes do.AC should typically be around 14-16 - a Wizard hybrid with an 18 Int being the low and a hybrid with access to Hide Armor+18 Int/Dex, such as Invoker hybrid.Druids:Summary: Sentinel is almost strictly better by RAW unless you're here for a beastform MBA or the very nice encounter power Infiltrating Drone and don't want one of the Were-themes. Most of the best powers are non-beast form and Were-themes are an option if you have to have a beast form. Hybrid Sentinel could be interpreted that they shouldn't have encounter choices similar to actual Sentinels, and some players or DMs may not be comfortable with that. If you're in one of those games, Druids shoot up to Blue.Stats: Wisdom mostly.Class Features: Wild shape is okay, but being action-limited in Wild Shape can be really dangerous - that you can't use any of the attack powers of the other class is really bad. The best hybrid builds seem to ignore Wild Shape.Implement: Decent implement/weapon choice, but as Quarterstaff has limited melee uses, not as good as it could have been.At-Wills: Magic Stones represents a top-tier controller at-will.Hybrid Feat benefits: There are a couple of interesting options here — riders for some builds' powers are powerfulInteresting Builds: Given Druids relatively solid hit points/surges for a controller, they make a very strong mix with almost any Dex/Wis or Int/Wis build. They're not a bad Con/Wis option either. Druid also has some Second Wind options available in Paragon with Wild Shape.Options of Note: WereX themes allow a Druid hybrid to use Beastform Powers and Weapon/Implement powers at the same time. This also opens up Charge options via Stampede(+boots) and Enraged Boar Form.Invokers:Summary: Good control, one main stat for the most part, very strong at-will option.Stats: All Wisdom unless you take the Int-Divine Channel option via Hybrid feat.Class Features:You get a good feature in the form of the Covenant Manifestation. It does not specify that you have a Covenant(Hybrid) and take that into consideration because it can cause ETV. Hit points, surges are limited. Good basic armor.Implement: Decent implement/weapon choice, but as Quarterstaff has limited melee uses, not as good as it could have been.At-Wills: Two really great choices of at-wills(Divine Bolts and Hand of Radiance), but you wouldn't take both. Better choices exist elsewhere, which really makes Invoker Hybrid a strong early choice.Hybrid Feat benefits: Divine Channeling is excellent for Int-based characters.Interesting Builds: Invoker|Cleric - one slotless implement. Invoker|Wizard. Mix of control. Invoker|Shaman - Con/Wis, but works with human. Can pick up the spirit with the hybrid feat with no real loss. No implement issues.Ranger(Hunter)Summary: Don't be a Hunter. Be a regular Human Ranger or Half-Elf with the Dilettante feat for a Ranger at-will who happens to have Archery Mastery. That, and Hunter isn't a legal hybrid.Wizards:Summary:Easy mixing with other classes, especially Int, Wis, Con, or Cha. Lots of solid racial choices(Tiefling, Gnome, Changeling, Deva, Human, Genasi, Eladrin).Stats: Int + whatever you want your implement to be.Class Features:You get the best parts of Wizard and most of it is replaceable by feats.Implement: Decent implement/weapon choice.At-Wills:Wizard has a few too many good at-wills. You'll likely end up sacrificing somewhere by hybriding. Still, not a horrible place to be. Makes a strong case for Human.Hybrid Feat benefits: Arcane Implement Mastery is great. But you can easily get by without it. Good to have choices regardless.Interesting Builds: Pretty much anything with Int, Wis, Con, or Cha as a primary stat.PsionSummary: Easy mixing with other classes, especially Int, Wis, or Cha. Lots of solid racial choices(Tiefling, Gnome, Changeling, Deva, Human, Genasi, Eladrin) - due to it being a lot newer than Wizard, not quite as good. Why it isn't black is due to its ability to have 3 total at-wills, not 2 like everyone else.Stats: Int + Wis or Cha. Lots of options.Class Features: You get the best parts of Psion and there's really no strong reason to spend a feat on the hybrid option.Implement: Decent implement/weapon choice, but as Quarterstaff has limited melee uses, not as good as it could have been.At-Wills: Lots of solid choices and Augment 1s look very suspiciously like at-wills once you get to high enough level. Strong case here for Human - you'll want to sacrifice Dishearten or Mind Thrust at paragon/epic, but this allows the character to retain the basic benefit - simple at-will debuff or RBA.Hybrid Feat benefits: Telekinetic free action shoving things around, particularly at twice an encounter is quite powerfulInteresting Builds: Psion|Avenger - surprisingly interesting due to the ability for a human to take an 18 in Int and a 16 in Wis. One of the few multi-stat Human builds. Avenger brings Holy Symbol into play and can grant a 19 AC at 1st level by spending the obvious feats. Many obvious Wizard|X combos work for Psion as well.Warning: You are going to want a good Cha or Wis score or your riders will suffer greatly Seeker Summary: Do Ranged Control until you miss, then blow things up with Inevitable Shot, then do your other class. And the Hybrid Feat benefit.Stats: Dex is not especially great here, but Str/Wis can have a lot of options, particularly if you multiclass into Assassin for the ability to ki-focus all your weapon choices. Other Wis|X stats can work reasonably well - just pick powers without riders based on stats. As you kind of want to miss as fast as possible, having only a 16 Wis is okay.Class Features: Inevitable Shot(Hybrid) basically determines how this hybrid behaves. i.e. you want to trigger this class feature, possibly reactivate it with an action point, then move on to your other class.Weapon: BowAt-Wills: Decent, but not spectacular at-wills. It is important to pick a Seeker power that works as a Ranged Basic attack. Half-Elves can now pick a Ranger at-will as their dilettante, then take the Archery Mastery feat to replace it with an RBA upgrade option. Rapid Shot could be a lot of fun with Eagle Eye Goggles.Hybrid Feat benefits: Very strong. Str to AC and +1 to hit with thrown weapons? Makes a lot of interesting Ranged options work for primarily melee types.Interesting Builds: Builds that use weapons that have Wis as a secondary stat. Str Ranger|Seeker - no need for Chainmail proficiency, solid opening move, +1 to hit with thrown weapons(note this is not when specifically throwing them, it is based on the property...). Artificer|Seeker - at first, doesn't seem quite natural, but there's a lot of useful bow alignment. Warlord|Seeker. +1 to hit with all your ranged attack powers and Str to AC can really make this work.Warlock(Binder)Summary:Be a Star Pact + Nova Striker. Blow things up, then turn invisible. What's not to like? Completely cornercase - gain the big benefit of being a permastealth build(be invisible some of the time) without needing to commit significant resources to being invisible all the time.Stats: Cha/Dex works well with many things. Cha/Int. As you're generally trying to avoid Binder encounter powers, this is really a Cha-only in terms of need class.Class Features: Keep most of the somewhat decent features, but nothing crazy goodImplement: Standard implement fare.At-Wills/Encounters:Interesting question is how do at-wills work? Does the build really get no at-wills from the Binder(or maybe the Warlock) side? Does Pact choice limit Encounters from Binder side? Is there access to Warlock? Who knows.Hybrid Feat benefits:Shadow Walk is solid, though available for poaching via MC'ing into Assassin.Interesting Builds: Binder|Rogue. Binder|Ranger. Binder|Barbarian. Binder|Sorcerer. Note the trend? Striker with Dex, possibly Cha. </blockquote>

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