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Miscibility Table: A 4e Hybrid Handbook(by MwaO)
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<blockquote data-quote="MwaO" data-source="post: 6703466" data-attributes="member: 12749"><p><strong>Friendly Hybrid Summoned</strong></p><p></p><p>I think there are 3 specific things to do which will make a significant percentage of hybrids work regardless of actual player or build skill:</p><p>Make your stats work. 18s in all primary stats should be the general goal. With some specific exceptions(classes that get big bonuses from a secondary stat every round), you can often dump secondary stats.</p><p></p><p>Figure out where your AC is coming from - many hybrids destroy AC. Non-defenders should ask themselves how they're getting at least Chainmail quality AC, Defenders should be 2 higher.</p><p></p><p>Decide your role in the party - the best hybrids do one of three things:</p><p>Be 90% of one role and a good 40% of the other. An Archer Ranger|Bard does many of the things that a typical Archer Ranger does with additional great interrupt choices as an example.</p><p></p><p>Be 80% of both - the ultimate 5th member of a party. A Warden|Avenger is an off-defender who does okay striker damage and has an easy route to AC(Hybrid Talent for Hide+Heavy Shield+Wis to AC) as an example.</p><p></p><p>Combine two of the same role for 100% of a role. Does not usually work with Strikers due to each side being a half-striker and Leaders eventually lose a heal(this is easy to compensate for, but players poor at builds might miss this in Paragon). Fighter|Paladin.</p><p></p><p>The following is a bit out of date - some races now have multiple stat combos and honestly, most hybrids should not focus on the secondary stats at all to the point of investing a racial choice in it.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Two-stat combinations, if I'm not mistaken, are:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>STR, DEX,</strong> Barbarian (Whirling), Fighter (Blade, flail, spear), Monk (Stone Fist), Ranger (Balanced), Rogue (Brutal), <span style="color: #800000"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Half-orc, Bugbear<strong></strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>STR, CON,</strong> Barbarian (Rageblood, Thunderborn), Fighter (Axe, Hammer, Pick), Runepriest (Wrathful), Warden (Earth, Storm) </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Goliath, Minotaur, Orc, Warforged</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>STR, INT,</strong> Swordmage (Assault), Warlord (Tactical)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Genasi </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>STR, WIS,</strong> Cleric (balanced), Fighter (Polearm, Opportunist), Paladin (STR-adin), Ranger (Melee/Hurling), Runepriest (Defiant), Seeker (Spiritbond), Warden (Wildblood, Lifespirit)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Longtooth Shifter, Minotaur </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>STR, CHA,</strong> Barbarian (Thaneborn), Cleric (Battle), Paladin (Balanced), Sorcerer (Dragon, Cosmic), Warlord (Inspiring), </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Dragonborn </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #808080"><em>DEX, CON, - </em></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #808080"><em>Races: Gnoll, Kobold</em></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #808080"></span><strong>DEX, INT,</strong> Rogue (Cunning), Wizard (Wand) </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Eladrin </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>DEX, WIS,</strong> Avenger (Pursuit), Druid (Predator), Monk (Centered), Seeker (Spiritbond)<span style="color: #800000"><strong> </strong></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Elf, Githzerai, Razorclaw Shifter, Wilden, </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>DEX, CHA,</strong> Rogue (Artful), Sorcerer (Storm, Wild) </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Drow, Goblin, Halfling </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>CON, INT,</strong> Warlock (CON-lock), Wizard (Staff, Summoning), Swordmage (Warding), Artificer <span style="color: #800000"><strong></strong></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races: </strong></span>Githyanki</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>CON, WIS,</strong> Battlemind (Resilient), Druid (Guardian), Invoker (Wrath) </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Dwarf, Wilden </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>CON, CHA,</strong> Ardent (Elation), Bard (Valorous), Battlemind (Resilient), Warlock (Balanced) <span style="color: #800000"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Half-Elf, Hobgoblin</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>INT, WIS,</strong> Avenger (Retribution), Invoker (Preserver), Shaman (Stalker), Psion (Telekinetic), Wizard (Orb, General), Artificer</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Deva, Githzerai, Shardmind </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>INT, CHA,</strong> Bard (Cunning), Psion (Telepathic), Warlock (CHA-lock), Wizard (Illusionist) </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Races:</strong></span> Doppelganger, Gnome, Shardmind, Tiefling</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>WIS, CHA,</strong> Bard (Prescient), Cleric (Ranged), Paladin (CHA-ladin), Shaman (Protector) </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MwaO, post: 6703466, member: 12749"] [b]Friendly Hybrid Summoned[/b] I think there are 3 specific things to do which will make a significant percentage of hybrids work regardless of actual player or build skill: Make your stats work. 18s in all primary stats should be the general goal. With some specific exceptions(classes that get big bonuses from a secondary stat every round), you can often dump secondary stats. Figure out where your AC is coming from - many hybrids destroy AC. Non-defenders should ask themselves how they're getting at least Chainmail quality AC, Defenders should be 2 higher. Decide your role in the party - the best hybrids do one of three things: Be 90% of one role and a good 40% of the other. An Archer Ranger|Bard does many of the things that a typical Archer Ranger does with additional great interrupt choices as an example. Be 80% of both - the ultimate 5th member of a party. A Warden|Avenger is an off-defender who does okay striker damage and has an easy route to AC(Hybrid Talent for Hide+Heavy Shield+Wis to AC) as an example. Combine two of the same role for 100% of a role. Does not usually work with Strikers due to each side being a half-striker and Leaders eventually lose a heal(this is easy to compensate for, but players poor at builds might miss this in Paragon). Fighter|Paladin. The following is a bit out of date - some races now have multiple stat combos and honestly, most hybrids should not focus on the secondary stats at all to the point of investing a racial choice in it. [INDENT]Two-stat combinations, if I'm not mistaken, are: [B]STR, DEX,[/B] Barbarian (Whirling), Fighter (Blade, flail, spear), Monk (Stone Fist), Ranger (Balanced), Rogue (Brutal), [COLOR=#800000] [B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Half-orc, Bugbear[B] STR, CON,[/B] Barbarian (Rageblood, Thunderborn), Fighter (Axe, Hammer, Pick), Runepriest (Wrathful), Warden (Earth, Storm) [COLOR=#800000][B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Goliath, Minotaur, Orc, Warforged [B]STR, INT,[/B] Swordmage (Assault), Warlord (Tactical) [COLOR=#800000][B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Genasi [B]STR, WIS,[/B] Cleric (balanced), Fighter (Polearm, Opportunist), Paladin (STR-adin), Ranger (Melee/Hurling), Runepriest (Defiant), Seeker (Spiritbond), Warden (Wildblood, Lifespirit) [COLOR=#800000][B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Longtooth Shifter, Minotaur [B]STR, CHA,[/B] Barbarian (Thaneborn), Cleric (Battle), Paladin (Balanced), Sorcerer (Dragon, Cosmic), Warlord (Inspiring), [COLOR=#800000][B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Dragonborn [COLOR=#808080][I]DEX, CON, - Races: Gnoll, Kobold[/I] [/COLOR][B]DEX, INT,[/B] Rogue (Cunning), Wizard (Wand) [COLOR=#800000][B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Eladrin [B]DEX, WIS,[/B] Avenger (Pursuit), Druid (Predator), Monk (Centered), Seeker (Spiritbond)[COLOR=#800000][B] Races:[/B][/COLOR] Elf, Githzerai, Razorclaw Shifter, Wilden, [B]DEX, CHA,[/B] Rogue (Artful), Sorcerer (Storm, Wild) [COLOR=#800000][B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Drow, Goblin, Halfling [B]CON, INT,[/B] Warlock (CON-lock), Wizard (Staff, Summoning), Swordmage (Warding), Artificer [COLOR=#800000][B] Races: [/B][/COLOR]Githyanki [B]CON, WIS,[/B] Battlemind (Resilient), Druid (Guardian), Invoker (Wrath) [COLOR=#800000][B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Dwarf, Wilden [B]CON, CHA,[/B] Ardent (Elation), Bard (Valorous), Battlemind (Resilient), Warlock (Balanced) [COLOR=#800000] [B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Half-Elf, Hobgoblin [B]INT, WIS,[/B] Avenger (Retribution), Invoker (Preserver), Shaman (Stalker), Psion (Telekinetic), Wizard (Orb, General), Artificer [COLOR=#800000][B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Deva, Githzerai, Shardmind [B]INT, CHA,[/B] Bard (Cunning), Psion (Telepathic), Warlock (CHA-lock), Wizard (Illusionist) [COLOR=#800000][B]Races:[/B][/COLOR] Doppelganger, Gnome, Shardmind, Tiefling [B]WIS, CHA,[/B] Bard (Prescient), Cleric (Ranged), Paladin (CHA-ladin), Shaman (Protector) [/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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