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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7476895" data-attributes="member: 6801845">I was just responding to:&nbsp; The same opportunity applies in almost any situation - you create your victories. Anything outside of that situation I would say is probably an outlier. I don't see how a statement like that can be taken as anything other than what you said.&nbsp; Good tactics equals the PCs, even the low level ones, surviving.&nbsp; In the game where I played, there was no amount of party tactics that could have saved the 1st level PCs.&nbsp; I could run through any number of scenarios where low level PCs would not survive encounters I typically throw at a mid-to-high level party if the monsters are being run intelligently.&nbsp; Then again, my monsters regularly attack the guys in the back if they're annoying and I rarely do traditional old school dungeons.&nbsp; If you gave me a way to deal with the hill giants throwing boulders at the guy in the back I missed it.At least we're in agreement that one of us (well,okay probably both of us) are full of it.&nbsp; I think you're dismissive of people saying that it's not fun to play low level characters with a high level group.&nbsp; You seem to think that party cohesion and cooperation is some kind of magical unicorn fairy dust that will protect low level PC, and that if they do die it's probably &quot;an outlier&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7476895, member: 6801845"] I was just responding to: [B]The same opportunity applies in almost any situation - you create your victories. Anything outside of that situation I would say is probably an outlier. [/B] I don't see how a statement like that can be taken as anything other than what you said. Good tactics equals the PCs, even the low level ones, surviving. In the game where I played, there was no amount of party tactics that could have saved the 1st level PCs. I could run through any number of scenarios where low level PCs would not survive encounters I typically throw at a mid-to-high level party if the monsters are being run intelligently. Then again, my monsters regularly attack the guys in the back if they're annoying and I rarely do traditional old school dungeons. If you gave me a way to deal with the hill giants throwing boulders at the guy in the back I missed it. At least we're in agreement that one of us (well,okay probably both of us) are full of it. I think you're dismissive of people saying that it's not fun to play low level characters with a high level group. You seem to think that party cohesion and cooperation is some kind of magical unicorn fairy dust that will protect low level PC, and that if they do die it's probably "an outlier". [/QUOTE]

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