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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7477179" data-attributes="member: 97077">I think this comes down to what you mean by &quot;contribute.&quot; A lower-level character can meaningfully contribute, so far as my practical experience tells me, quite well in a higher-level group. The disparity I've personally seen is 7 levels. If you're thinking &quot;contribute&quot; means &quot;do as much damage as the higher-level barbarian,&quot; then you quite rightly will think that the lower-level PC isn't meaningfully contributing. I think that's a terrible metric though, even among same-level characters. There are so many other ways to meaningfully contribute.And the other thing that I think is ignored is that the 5th-level PC is going to be 6th level - more capable, more survivable - in 3 Medium encounters if the party is going up against CR 15 threats. I saw a 1st-level character go up to 4th level in one session when traveling with 6th- to 8th level characters. He was 2nd level after a single encounter. So even if someone believes (wrongly, in my view) that a lower-level PC can't meaningfully contribute in combats alongside higher-level PCs (which also ignores meaningful contributions in two-thirds of the pillars of the game by the way), you're spending almost no appreciable time doing that since you're leveling up very quickly. Perhaps really quickly in apprentice tier and beyond that &quot;sweet spot&quot; where the level gain is slower. Once into the higher levels, I understand advancement come even faster by design.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7477179, member: 97077"] I think this comes down to what you mean by "contribute." A lower-level character can meaningfully contribute, so far as my practical experience tells me, quite well in a higher-level group. The disparity I've personally seen is 7 levels. If you're thinking "contribute" means "do as much damage as the higher-level barbarian," then you quite rightly will think that the lower-level PC isn't meaningfully contributing. I think that's a terrible metric though, even among same-level characters. There are so many other ways to meaningfully contribute. And the other thing that I think is ignored is that the 5th-level PC is going to be 6th level - more capable, more survivable - in 3 Medium encounters if the party is going up against CR 15 threats. I saw a 1st-level character go up to 4th level in one session when traveling with 6th- to 8th level characters. He was 2nd level after a single encounter. So even if someone believes (wrongly, in my view) that a lower-level PC can't meaningfully contribute in combats alongside higher-level PCs (which also ignores meaningful contributions in two-thirds of the pillars of the game by the way), you're spending almost no appreciable time doing that since you're leveling up very quickly. Perhaps really quickly in apprentice tier and beyond that "sweet spot" where the level gain is slower. Once into the higher levels, I understand advancement come even faster by design. [/QUOTE]

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