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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7481059" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>You aren't understanding [MENTION=97077]iserith[/MENTION]. The game is clear on how the DM adjudicates actions. First, he determines if the outcome is certain or uncertain. If the outcome is certain, you never get a roll, but instead simply succeed or fail. It's only if the outcome is uncertain that a roll happens and a PC would get an athletics check to go further at a DC the DM sets.</p><p></p><p>For example, if the PCs can get the platforms rocking and the DM think that the platform would go 3 feet higher and 5 feet closer, allowing for an extra 8 feet of distance, he might rule that even a 10 strength PC will automatically be able to reach the next platform. Outcome not uncertain and no athletics used, even though the PC went farther than usual.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7481059, member: 23751"] You aren't understanding [MENTION=97077]iserith[/MENTION]. The game is clear on how the DM adjudicates actions. First, he determines if the outcome is certain or uncertain. If the outcome is certain, you never get a roll, but instead simply succeed or fail. It's only if the outcome is uncertain that a roll happens and a PC would get an athletics check to go further at a DC the DM sets. For example, if the PCs can get the platforms rocking and the DM think that the platform would go 3 feet higher and 5 feet closer, allowing for an extra 8 feet of distance, he might rule that even a 10 strength PC will automatically be able to reach the next platform. Outcome not uncertain and no athletics used, even though the PC went farther than usual. [/QUOTE]
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