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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7482249" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>That DM does NOT misunderstand his or her role at the table in your example. The DM is narrating the result of the adventurer's action which is the purview of the DM and Step 3 of the basic conversation of the game. However much you may disagree with the ruling, it is appropriate to the role.</p><p></p><p>As for players asking to make ability checks, please let me know if you find any example of that in the Basic Rules or DMG. To my knowledge, the only thing that is called out is asking to apply a proficiency to an ability check the DM already called for. Players asking to make ability checks is a common approach to playing in my experience, but I find no support for it in the D&D 5e rules. Contrast that with D&D 4e, for example, which explicitly says: "A player often initiates a skill check by asking the DM if he or she can make one. Almost always, the DM says yes." This approach seems very much to me like a holdover from other editions of the game that people are bringing with them into D&D 5e. And to be clear, I still play D&D 4e. In that game, go nuts with asking to make skill checks! But not in my D&D 5e game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7482249, member: 97077"] That DM does NOT misunderstand his or her role at the table in your example. The DM is narrating the result of the adventurer's action which is the purview of the DM and Step 3 of the basic conversation of the game. However much you may disagree with the ruling, it is appropriate to the role. As for players asking to make ability checks, please let me know if you find any example of that in the Basic Rules or DMG. To my knowledge, the only thing that is called out is asking to apply a proficiency to an ability check the DM already called for. Players asking to make ability checks is a common approach to playing in my experience, but I find no support for it in the D&D 5e rules. Contrast that with D&D 4e, for example, which explicitly says: "A player often initiates a skill check by asking the DM if he or she can make one. Almost always, the DM says yes." This approach seems very much to me like a holdover from other editions of the game that people are bringing with them into D&D 5e. And to be clear, I still play D&D 4e. In that game, go nuts with asking to make skill checks! But not in my D&D 5e game. [/QUOTE]
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