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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7482533" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>I would say it's also reasonable to conclude that an approach is needed to achieve a goal of jumping an unusually long distance which is something other than the approach used to jump normally. And that if such an approach is not viable in the present situation, then it's time for that player (and character) to think fast and come up with something else. We're talking about poor Bob as if jumping is his only option and that doesn't seem all that likely a scenario in my experience. Climb down the chasm or pit wall - I've never heard of a zombie that climbs.</p><p></p><p>What we're disagreeing on appears to be the viability of "I try harder than usual" or "adrenaline and stuff" as approaches and I think even [MENTION=6779196]Charlaquin[/MENTION] is okay with the latter given a cost. I'm not. So my players may have to work a little harder to save Bob. No big deal. Why am I not okay with that approach? It doesn't actually matter. DMs are just going to rule differently on matters of what is or isn't an uncertain outcome and/or a meaningful consequence of failure. That's okay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7482533, member: 97077"] I would say it's also reasonable to conclude that an approach is needed to achieve a goal of jumping an unusually long distance which is something other than the approach used to jump normally. And that if such an approach is not viable in the present situation, then it's time for that player (and character) to think fast and come up with something else. We're talking about poor Bob as if jumping is his only option and that doesn't seem all that likely a scenario in my experience. Climb down the chasm or pit wall - I've never heard of a zombie that climbs. What we're disagreeing on appears to be the viability of "I try harder than usual" or "adrenaline and stuff" as approaches and I think even [MENTION=6779196]Charlaquin[/MENTION] is okay with the latter given a cost. I'm not. So my players may have to work a little harder to save Bob. No big deal. Why am I not okay with that approach? It doesn't actually matter. DMs are just going to rule differently on matters of what is or isn't an uncertain outcome and/or a meaningful consequence of failure. That's okay. [/QUOTE]
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