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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7482595" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>If a jump matters, it's generally going to be worth the risk of falling to get across by attempting the roll. If it doesn't matter, they aren't going to be jumping the base distance anyway. There will be very few times that they will choose not to push for the extra distance when confronted by a longer(but possible) jump distance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a False Equivalence. Every single PC has athletics. It's not some mysterious ability like metamagic that is highly limited. If what you are arguing is true and athletics does just allow you to try for extra distance left and right, there is quite literally no reason for the jump rules to read like they do. You are arguing that the rules for jumping are, "With all of your effort you can go a maximum distance equal to your strength score, unless you want to go further by using your strength score." </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Athletics specifies that it is unusual for it to happen, which precludes it happening in virtually every jump that's a bit longer than the jump rules allow.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unless failure = death/serious injury like when jumping, then you try as hard as you freaking can. Only a fool with a death wish is going to use only what they need and no more. It's easy to misread exactly how much you need and fall to your death.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7482595, member: 23751"] If a jump matters, it's generally going to be worth the risk of falling to get across by attempting the roll. If it doesn't matter, they aren't going to be jumping the base distance anyway. There will be very few times that they will choose not to push for the extra distance when confronted by a longer(but possible) jump distance. This is a False Equivalence. Every single PC has athletics. It's not some mysterious ability like metamagic that is highly limited. If what you are arguing is true and athletics does just allow you to try for extra distance left and right, there is quite literally no reason for the jump rules to read like they do. You are arguing that the rules for jumping are, "With all of your effort you can go a maximum distance equal to your strength score, unless you want to go further by using your strength score." Athletics specifies that it is unusual for it to happen, which precludes it happening in virtually every jump that's a bit longer than the jump rules allow. Unless failure = death/serious injury like when jumping, then you try as hard as you freaking can. Only a fool with a death wish is going to use only what they need and no more. It's easy to misread exactly how much you need and fall to your death. [/QUOTE]
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