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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7483347" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>So the 5e game designers are wrong about the intent of 5e to be rulings over rules?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Already in this thread alone we've had issues with the vagueness caused by "meaningful consequence" and "unusually long." 5e is rife with wording like that.</p><p></p><p>Edit: Just for the heck of it I looked up Magic Missile since you used that as your clear rules example. Here is the wording.</p><p></p><p>"You create three glowing darts of magical force. Each dart hits a creature of your choice that you can see within range. A dart deals 1d4 + 1 force damage to its target. The darts all strike simultaneously, and you can direct them to hit one creature or several."</p><p></p><p>What does several mean? You create three darts, if you can only hit up to three, why didn't they say so? Can you have a dart hit more than one creature? That wording seems to say so. Several means "More than 2, but not many." Many means "A large number of" So a medium number, say 8 or 12 would be several. The rule also says that each darts hits A creature of your choice, which would indicate 3 get hit. However, the "clear" rules also say you can hit several. Both cannot be true. Which is it?</p><p></p><p>I think it's pretty clear that most, if not all DMs will rule that you can only hit 3 creatures, but the rules don't actually say that. Instead you are going to need a ruling if a player brings that up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7483347, member: 23751"] So the 5e game designers are wrong about the intent of 5e to be rulings over rules? Already in this thread alone we've had issues with the vagueness caused by "meaningful consequence" and "unusually long." 5e is rife with wording like that. Edit: Just for the heck of it I looked up Magic Missile since you used that as your clear rules example. Here is the wording. "You create three glowing darts of magical force. Each dart hits a creature of your choice that you can see within range. A dart deals 1d4 + 1 force damage to its target. The darts all strike simultaneously, and you can direct them to hit one creature or several." What does several mean? You create three darts, if you can only hit up to three, why didn't they say so? Can you have a dart hit more than one creature? That wording seems to say so. Several means "More than 2, but not many." Many means "A large number of" So a medium number, say 8 or 12 would be several. The rule also says that each darts hits A creature of your choice, which would indicate 3 get hit. However, the "clear" rules also say you can hit several. Both cannot be true. Which is it? I think it's pretty clear that most, if not all DMs will rule that you can only hit 3 creatures, but the rules don't actually say that. Instead you are going to need a ruling if a player brings that up. [/QUOTE]
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