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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Boots" data-source="post: 7484610" data-attributes="member: 92239"><p>I've gotten here late but I disagree with your statement about the rules lacking.</p><p></p><p>It's pretty clear that there are rules about distances based on strength and what should and should not be allowed based on the environment. For one of the types (long and standing) you can make a DC 10 check to clear an obstacle no larger than one quarter the distance of the jump high.</p><p></p><p>For the other it's up to the DM if the player can jump to another platform if the platform is far enough away that the standard strength rules won't allow it due to low strength or high distance.</p><p></p><p>If the platform is far enough away that the strongest mortal character can't reach it with the existing jump rules then it wasn't designed to be possible by the characters and the DM shouldn't allow it. If the platform could be reached by someone with an 18 strength, and the character attempting it is in the range of strength where an athletiics check might make sense.. (like 16 strength) have the player make a DC10 check. If the character is average, the DM shouldn't allow it or set a DC high enough that the player won't attempt it.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes it's about rules, and sometimes it's about design. When you're stumped it's usually a design flaw creating a situation just enough outside of normal that it distracts from a logical ruling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kobold Boots, post: 7484610, member: 92239"] I've gotten here late but I disagree with your statement about the rules lacking. It's pretty clear that there are rules about distances based on strength and what should and should not be allowed based on the environment. For one of the types (long and standing) you can make a DC 10 check to clear an obstacle no larger than one quarter the distance of the jump high. For the other it's up to the DM if the player can jump to another platform if the platform is far enough away that the standard strength rules won't allow it due to low strength or high distance. If the platform is far enough away that the strongest mortal character can't reach it with the existing jump rules then it wasn't designed to be possible by the characters and the DM shouldn't allow it. If the platform could be reached by someone with an 18 strength, and the character attempting it is in the range of strength where an athletiics check might make sense.. (like 16 strength) have the player make a DC10 check. If the character is average, the DM shouldn't allow it or set a DC high enough that the player won't attempt it. Sometimes it's about rules, and sometimes it's about design. When you're stumped it's usually a design flaw creating a situation just enough outside of normal that it distracts from a logical ruling. [/QUOTE]
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