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<blockquote data-quote="Wolv0rine" data-source="post: 4118392" data-attributes="member: 9045">I don't know about anyone else's experience, but My past experience with older version of the game (primarily BD&amp;D and 1E) were that the fact that the lack of what we now call Profession and Craft skills (and the even Knowledge skills, really) were an actual bone of contention with gamers.&nbsp; Saying &quot;It doesn't need to be quantified on the character sheet&quot; is actually a very 1E kind of way to approach it, very retro and all.&nbsp; And in my experience it lead to a lot of problems and people bitching that the game should have some rules for these kinds of thing.&nbsp; Which I presume is one of the reasons they cropped up in 3E.&nbsp; I know for my part, I remember a lot of times where a stat roll ended up being made in older editions when someone's character background said or&nbsp; implied that they had skill or training or knowledge or this-or-that, but the rules didn't cover that sort of thing.&nbsp; And that level of presumed DM-fiat tended to irk most of the people I gamed with, at least.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wolv0rine, post: 4118392, member: 9045"] I don't know about anyone else's experience, but My past experience with older version of the game (primarily BD&D and 1E) were that the fact that the lack of what we now call Profession and Craft skills (and the even Knowledge skills, really) were an actual bone of contention with gamers. Saying "It doesn't need to be quantified on the character sheet" is actually a very 1E kind of way to approach it, very retro and all. And in my experience it lead to a lot of problems and people bitching that the game should have some rules for these kinds of thing. Which I presume is one of the reasons they cropped up in 3E. I know for my part, I remember a lot of times where a stat roll ended up being made in older editions when someone's character background said or implied that they had skill or training or knowledge or this-or-that, but the rules didn't cover that sort of thing. And that level of presumed DM-fiat tended to irk most of the people [b]I[/b] gamed with, at least. [/QUOTE]

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