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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1393340" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>Pip and Merry do not encounter Gandalf before Isengard. They <em>almost</em> hear about him being back from Treebeard:</p><p></p><p>And that's the last that appears to be said of the matter. The hobbits are very quickly too engrossed in Treebeard to recall Gandalf again, who they of course think is dead.</p><p></p><p>While Gandalf does indeed appear to have forgotten that name when Legolas, Gimli and Aragorn run into him in Fangorn, he clearly is not suffering from general amnesia. He recalls Legolas' name immediately, he knows about the hobbits, and that the three are searching for the little chaps.</p><p></p><p>Gandalf says clearly that he has NOT spoken with Treebeard since returning -- he says that he thinks he saw the Ent at a distance four days ago. So he remembers clearly enough to recognize Treebeard, which we can assume means much of his memory was returned four days ago.</p><p></p><p>So he recovered at Lothlorien, where he regained his memory but nobody mentioned to him that other people sometimes called him Gandalf. That doesn't seem very strange to me. When he encounters the three, he toys with them a bit in his Gandalf-y way, but clearly recognizes them on sight. When he hears the name by which he is also known, he recalls it, but obviously nobody has called him that since he returned. Which, given that the only people he's talked to are the elves of Lothlorien, is exactly what we should expect.</p><p></p><p>PJ introduces the continuity problem of having the hobbits encounter Gandalf, and presumably use that name (since they never call him Mithrandir), before he meets with Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas. It's not a huge problem, but it belongs entirely to Peter Jackson.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 1393340, member: 812"] Pip and Merry do not encounter Gandalf before Isengard. They [i]almost[/i] hear about him being back from Treebeard: And that's the last that appears to be said of the matter. The hobbits are very quickly too engrossed in Treebeard to recall Gandalf again, who they of course think is dead. While Gandalf does indeed appear to have forgotten that name when Legolas, Gimli and Aragorn run into him in Fangorn, he clearly is not suffering from general amnesia. He recalls Legolas' name immediately, he knows about the hobbits, and that the three are searching for the little chaps. Gandalf says clearly that he has NOT spoken with Treebeard since returning -- he says that he thinks he saw the Ent at a distance four days ago. So he remembers clearly enough to recognize Treebeard, which we can assume means much of his memory was returned four days ago. So he recovered at Lothlorien, where he regained his memory but nobody mentioned to him that other people sometimes called him Gandalf. That doesn't seem very strange to me. When he encounters the three, he toys with them a bit in his Gandalf-y way, but clearly recognizes them on sight. When he hears the name by which he is also known, he recalls it, but obviously nobody has called him that since he returned. Which, given that the only people he's talked to are the elves of Lothlorien, is exactly what we should expect. PJ introduces the continuity problem of having the hobbits encounter Gandalf, and presumably use that name (since they never call him Mithrandir), before he meets with Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas. It's not a huge problem, but it belongs entirely to Peter Jackson. [/QUOTE]
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