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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chris the Bigger" data-source="post: 1872391" data-attributes="member: 19523">Before Azz gets started just want to confirm that this is all happening before Orena knows exactly what has taken place and that we have the real control rod. If she knows, we'll need to take a different tact.I think Princep is on the right track but we might be getting ahead of ourselves a bit. First let's figure out what to do with the spoils of war we have. If no one can use the magic items we have, we should hold on to them for trade. Or we may want to trade them to Orena in return for good will if we think that will be the most useful purpose for what we have. Otherwise let's trade them for items of greater value.Second, the mercury and [fake] control rod I carry are not mine and I cannot withhold them from their rightful owner if he asks for them. However, the control rod we took from Acrilug is ours, I do not think we should release it from our control.Here is what I propose:1. We do not give any thing to anyone until we are ready to leave. If we need to stall negotiations to make this happen then we should. If we don't we may find ourselves worse off than before with no way out. If Orena tries to take the spoils by force, I will interpret that action as hostile and react accordingly.2. We bargain with Acrilug- information for his freedom. We ask him to tell us what he is willing to trade for his freedom, this way he may disclose more than if we just ask him for the information on how to make the rod. We should brainstorm to see what he might know that would be of interest to us i.e. how to make the rod, the layout of the Mottul fortress, their defenses, garrison and so on. We should use the detect lies spell as we did with Bryton. part of any bargain we make wiht Actrilug is to make him give his word that he will not aid Mottul forces in anyway for the duration of the current conflict. [ we may need to word the requirement of that promise better. He is LE and will abide by the bargin to the letter but will use any loophole to his advantage]3. We trade Severus the mercury and his source information, for the secret on how to make the fake control rod real. This way we own the mercury, and have the real control rod and have a line on more mercury. Serverus will have the fake control rod and the secret to making it real, thus assuring him a high position in Orena's eyes (she'll need him at least) and giving us a potential ally. We will have the mercury and the control rod and a place to find more if we need it so we can secure Princep's fortress. While we are doing that Serverus will need to gather more mercury and convert the rod. This will take time which Orena will hopefully use to repair and garrison the fotress so when it works it will be properly protected.4. We give Orena Pakara as a ransom hostage. Orena can keep the ransom. Not as nice as the dragon but there is really not any good way to keep an old dragon for any length of time anyhow.5. We turn Bryton over to Orena for trial as a traitor. His fate is now at the mercy of the court. Orena may feel that she is not getting a good bargin but i thnk Princep's sugestion of offering aliance when his fotress is ready and taking on the Mottul fotress will increase both parties fame and prestige. I'm not sure why Princep feels he needs to sacrifice his lands. Orena may want more out of the deal but even if she forces us to give her all the loot she will have less then if she allies with Fina (us). i suggest we blend the two plans and get the most that we can while dealing fairly with Orena and Serverus.Metagame stuff. - Azz has a 20 CHR and so + 20 in Dilplomacy don't kow if this is any better than anyone else in the party. he also may have a better change of negotiating with Acrilug. Azz is well known among dragons.</blockquote>

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