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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Haggerty" data-source="post: 312521" data-attributes="member: 89"><p>Not as stupid as you might think...</p><p></p><p>Let's make a MW mithral chain shirt. But first, allow me a few more quotes from the SRD...</p><p></p><p>SRD (Craft skill):</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>SRD (Craft skill):</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, to make a MW item, we make the item and the masterwork component seperately. Let's make the mithral chain shirt first...</p><p></p><p>A mithral chain shirt costs 100 gp for being a chain shirt, and an extra 1000 gp for being light armor made from mithral. The total base price is 1100 gp. The smith must spend 1/3 that price (366.66 gp) in materials to make the armor. </p><p></p><p>The DC for the Craft check doesn't change... For armor, DC=10+AC bonus... DC 14 for a chain shirt.</p><p></p><p>Once you've successfully made the item, you roll the Craft check for MW... </p><p></p><p>Ok. Here comes the tricky part... With Craft checks, you multiply your check result by the DC (20*14=280, for example). Add total up week by week, and when it equals the item's price multiplied by 10, the item has been completed.</p><p></p><p>So, when you make an ordinary chain shirt, you spend ~33 gp in materials, and you must reach 1000 with your checks before completing it. </p><p></p><p>For a mithral chain shirt, you spend ~366 gp in materials. But for construction time, you consider it a MW item... 1100 gp + 150 gp = 1250 (effective construction cost). So, instead of having to reach 11000 before it's complete, you have to reach 12500, even though the base price stays the same.</p><p></p><p>For a MW mithral chain shirt, add 150 to the <B><I>base</I></B> price (1250)... ~416 gp spent on materials, and you must reach 14000 before it's complete.</p><p></p><p>So, for a character with a total +10 to his Craft (armorsmith), and who is taking 10 on his checks...</p><p></p><p>Chain shirt: 3.5 weeks (one month) construction time... 1000/280</p><p>MW chain shirt: About 14-15 weeks (4 months) construction time... 4000/280</p><p>Mithral chain shirt: About 44-45 weeks (11 months) construction time... 1250/280</p><p>MW Mithral chain shirt: 50 weeks (a year) construction time... 1400/280</p><p></p><p>All in all, for this particular smith, the "treat as MW for construction price", simply adds about a month to the construction time.</p><p></p><p>So, when you think about it, there's little need to worry about the construction time of Adamantine and Mithral items. What character is going to take months off of adventuring to make one stinking suit of armor, when he can just steal one off the corpse of some hapless elf?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Haggerty, post: 312521, member: 89"] Not as stupid as you might think... Let's make a MW mithral chain shirt. But first, allow me a few more quotes from the SRD... SRD (Craft skill): SRD (Craft skill): So, to make a MW item, we make the item and the masterwork component seperately. Let's make the mithral chain shirt first... A mithral chain shirt costs 100 gp for being a chain shirt, and an extra 1000 gp for being light armor made from mithral. The total base price is 1100 gp. The smith must spend 1/3 that price (366.66 gp) in materials to make the armor. The DC for the Craft check doesn't change... For armor, DC=10+AC bonus... DC 14 for a chain shirt. Once you've successfully made the item, you roll the Craft check for MW... Ok. Here comes the tricky part... With Craft checks, you multiply your check result by the DC (20*14=280, for example). Add total up week by week, and when it equals the item's price multiplied by 10, the item has been completed. So, when you make an ordinary chain shirt, you spend ~33 gp in materials, and you must reach 1000 with your checks before completing it. For a mithral chain shirt, you spend ~366 gp in materials. But for construction time, you consider it a MW item... 1100 gp + 150 gp = 1250 (effective construction cost). So, instead of having to reach 11000 before it's complete, you have to reach 12500, even though the base price stays the same. For a MW mithral chain shirt, add 150 to the <B><I>base</I></B> price (1250)... ~416 gp spent on materials, and you must reach 14000 before it's complete. So, for a character with a total +10 to his Craft (armorsmith), and who is taking 10 on his checks... Chain shirt: 3.5 weeks (one month) construction time... 1000/280 MW chain shirt: About 14-15 weeks (4 months) construction time... 4000/280 Mithral chain shirt: About 44-45 weeks (11 months) construction time... 1250/280 MW Mithral chain shirt: 50 weeks (a year) construction time... 1400/280 All in all, for this particular smith, the "treat as MW for construction price", simply adds about a month to the construction time. So, when you think about it, there's little need to worry about the construction time of Adamantine and Mithral items. What character is going to take months off of adventuring to make one stinking suit of armor, when he can just steal one off the corpse of some hapless elf? [/QUOTE]
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