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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Legildur" data-source="post: 3355997" data-attributes="member: 1258">A lousy analogy.  Because answering your question dooms the responder either way. (besides, I believe the actual question should be 'When did you stop beating your wife?', at least that is how I have heard it).I'm looking at the equipment table in the PHB and I don't see 12 gauge shotgun listed... nor skeets in the MM. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Explain to me then Weapon Finesse.....The ASF chance from a buckler applies even if the buckler is not in the casting hand!A buckler imposes an attack penalty if you attack using the hand wearing the buckler - regardless if it is made of mithril or has a 0% ASF chance. Therefore we can deduce that it impedes the actions of that hand to some degree.I argue that it is sufficient impedance to prevent "measured and precise movement of the hand".PS For the record, I know a thing or two about shooting, being a military qualified marksman with competition medals for combat style shooting (moving targets etc).  And I sure wouldn't want some weight on my arm when firing from the standing position.....</blockquote>