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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9025131" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>Yes. The Angel needs to be any Good alignment, be a broad category for any Upper Plane. Some Angles need to personify "True" Good. Some Angels need to personify Chaotic Good. To personify Lawful Good is only one kind of Angel.</p><p></p><p>I am happy you brought this up. Heh, I have been trying to introduce this tangent too.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would swap the technical terms "Angel" and "Celestial". Angel becomes the creature type. </p><p></p><p>Thus <strong>Angel</strong> and <strong>Fiend</strong> are opposites.</p><p></p><p>This Angel creature type is the creature of any Upper Plane. Oppositely, the Fiend creature type is the creature of any Lower Plane.</p><p></p><p>Consider there are different kinds of Fiends, depending on which alignment plane they personify.</p><p>• Lawful Evil <strong>Infernal</strong>: Nine Hells</p><p>• True Evil <strong>Chthonic</strong>: Hades (but rename this, True Evil Tartaran: Tartarus)</p><p>• Chaotic Evil <strong>Abyssal</strong>: Abyss</p><p></p><p>In parallel, there would be different kinds of Angels, depending on which alignment plane they personify.</p><p>• Lawful Good <strong>Celestial</strong>: Mount Celestia</p><p>• True Good <strong>Elysian</strong>: Elysium</p><p>• Chaotic Evil <strong>Arboreal</strong>: Arborea</p><p></p><p></p><p>In the case of both Angel and Fiend, these Astral creatures come into existence to serve a specific mission. A Divine power can create them by decree. Or a Humanoid Divine-source community can cause them to come into existence by tradition. Either top-down or bottom-up is a possible origin.</p><p></p><p>When a power of Arborea creates an Angel, that Angel will be Chaotic Good. And so on.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Note, 4e and 5e have evolved since 3e and earlier. The Greek concept of "Hades" is now moreorless identical to Shadowfell. It is awkward to refer to use the term to refer to something else. If the Evil alignment plane is called "Tartarus", at least this term refers to place of punishment. Alternatively, in D&D tradition, the Evil plane was also called the Gray Wastes. Calling the Evil plane the Gray Wastes or the Wastes would help disambiguate. Really, Hades is alternate name for Shadowfell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9025131, member: 58172"] Yes. The Angel needs to be any Good alignment, be a broad category for any Upper Plane. Some Angles need to personify "True" Good. Some Angels need to personify Chaotic Good. To personify Lawful Good is only one kind of Angel. I am happy you brought this up. Heh, I have been trying to introduce this tangent too. I would swap the technical terms "Angel" and "Celestial". Angel becomes the creature type. Thus [B]Angel[/B] and [B]Fiend[/B] are opposites. This Angel creature type is the creature of any Upper Plane. Oppositely, the Fiend creature type is the creature of any Lower Plane. Consider there are different kinds of Fiends, depending on which alignment plane they personify. • Lawful Evil [B]Infernal[/B]: Nine Hells • True Evil [B]Chthonic[/B]: Hades (but rename this, True Evil Tartaran: Tartarus) • Chaotic Evil [B]Abyssal[/B]: Abyss In parallel, there would be different kinds of Angels, depending on which alignment plane they personify. • Lawful Good [B]Celestial[/B]: Mount Celestia • True Good [B]Elysian[/B]: Elysium • Chaotic Evil [B]Arboreal[/B]: Arborea In the case of both Angel and Fiend, these Astral creatures come into existence to serve a specific mission. A Divine power can create them by decree. Or a Humanoid Divine-source community can cause them to come into existence by tradition. Either top-down or bottom-up is a possible origin. When a power of Arborea creates an Angel, that Angel will be Chaotic Good. And so on. Note, 4e and 5e have evolved since 3e and earlier. The Greek concept of "Hades" is now moreorless identical to Shadowfell. It is awkward to refer to use the term to refer to something else. If the Evil alignment plane is called "Tartarus", at least this term refers to place of punishment. Alternatively, in D&D tradition, the Evil plane was also called the Gray Wastes. Calling the Evil plane the Gray Wastes or the Wastes would help disambiguate. Really, Hades is alternate name for Shadowfell. [/QUOTE]
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