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<blockquote data-quote="Veltharis ap Rylix" data-source="post: 9025333" data-attributes="member: 66357">When I refer to &quot;gods&quot; in the context of D&amp;D, I specifically mean entities that explicitly draw power and sustenance from the worship of their followers. Any entity can theoretically have a following of worshipers, even a mortal, but only the divine have their power directly tied to one.Wiping out the cult of a mortal/archdevil/demon lord doesn't directly weaken them - Demogorgon's CR doesn't go down, he just has less backup to call upon. Wiping out the cult of a god causes it to starve to death.That's the distinction, in my mind. An entity can be both, and start out as either (Lolth/Araushnee was a goddess of the elves before she became a demon lord, Orcus was a demon lord before he became a god), but being/becoming a &quot;god&quot; ties their existence to their worshipers in a more direct and intimate way.&nbsp;It's been &quot;The Tartarian Depths of Carceri&quot; since the 3e era at least, and more to the point, it's been explicitly noted as the prison realm the Olympian gods cast the Titans into after they overthrew them since at least 2e and probably before, so it's clearly intended to represent the mythological Tartarus whether or not that is considered the plane's &quot;official&quot; name.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Veltharis ap Rylix, post: 9025333, member: 66357"] When I refer to "gods" in the context of D&D, I specifically mean entities that explicitly draw power and sustenance from the worship of their followers. Any entity can theoretically have a following of worshipers, even a mortal, but only the divine have their power directly tied to one. Wiping out the cult of a mortal/archdevil/demon lord doesn't directly weaken them - Demogorgon's CR doesn't go down, he just has less backup to call upon. Wiping out the cult of a god causes it to starve to death. That's the distinction, in my mind. An entity can be both, and start out as either (Lolth/Araushnee was a goddess of the elves before she became a demon lord, Orcus was a demon lord before he became a god), but being/becoming a "god" ties their existence to their worshipers in a more direct and intimate way. It's been "The Tartarian Depths of Carceri" since the 3e era at least, and more to the point, it's been explicitly noted as the prison realm the Olympian gods cast the Titans into after they overthrew them since at least 2e and probably before, so it's clearly intended to represent the mythological Tartarus whether or not that is considered the plane's "official" name. [/QUOTE]

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