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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9026505" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>I agree. The Ardling seems like a good idea to make a diversity of humanimal concepts more accessible to the many fans by being a core option. At the same time, the animalistic flavor of the Ardling interferes the "angelic" archetype that transfigures and idealizes a human body, that Aasimar fans want.</p><p></p><p></p><p>When I was researching the 2e Planescape traditions, the Ardling is clearly specific to the Good-by-Chaotic-Good Plane, Beastland. Their flavor would need to be quite different to be Neutral. Also, 5e animals are officially "Unaligned", in the sense of being mostly unable to make ethical choices. I am unsure if animal imagery works for a personification of the True Neutral alignment. At least the Beastland animals resonate the trope that Nature is an expression of the Divine creation, is inherently good, and continues to be a Divine revelation. Many persons and cultures go into the wilderness to commune with the Divine.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe "<strong>Primordial</strong>" can specifically mean the Proto-Elemental "thoughts" within the Astral Plane. In the sense of being powerful Astral beings who are involved in the formation of the multiverse, Primordials can be part of Divine magic. I suggest the Non-Good and Non-Evil Astral beings be referred to as "Primordials". Thus the Lawful Neutral Modron of Mechanus and the Chaotic Neutral Slaadi of Limbo are "Primordials", rather than Celestials or Fiends. These LN and CN beings kinda already do have Elemental flavor and imagery. The True Neutral Primordials are especially Elemental. The relationship between Primordials and Elementals resembles the relationship between Corellon and Elves. Corellon is actually an Elf, albeit an Astral thought of an Elf preexisting the physicalization elves within the Feywild. Likewise, Primordials actually are Elementals − and the True Neutral Primordials more clearly Fire, Air, Water, and Earth − albeit an Astral thought of elements preexisting the materialization of Elemental matter.</p><p></p><p>In this context, the <strong>Genasi</strong> can repurpose as a species who have Primordial Ancestry − function as the <strong>True Neutral</strong> angelics, sotospeak, between Aasimar and Tiefling.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I agree. There is value in having a core humanimal option that is fluid, and better able to personalize to the players humanimal concept.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9026505, member: 58172"] I agree. The Ardling seems like a good idea to make a diversity of humanimal concepts more accessible to the many fans by being a core option. At the same time, the animalistic flavor of the Ardling interferes the "angelic" archetype that transfigures and idealizes a human body, that Aasimar fans want. When I was researching the 2e Planescape traditions, the Ardling is clearly specific to the Good-by-Chaotic-Good Plane, Beastland. Their flavor would need to be quite different to be Neutral. Also, 5e animals are officially "Unaligned", in the sense of being mostly unable to make ethical choices. I am unsure if animal imagery works for a personification of the True Neutral alignment. At least the Beastland animals resonate the trope that Nature is an expression of the Divine creation, is inherently good, and continues to be a Divine revelation. Many persons and cultures go into the wilderness to commune with the Divine. Maybe "[B]Primordial[/B]" can specifically mean the Proto-Elemental "thoughts" within the Astral Plane. In the sense of being powerful Astral beings who are involved in the formation of the multiverse, Primordials can be part of Divine magic. I suggest the Non-Good and Non-Evil Astral beings be referred to as "Primordials". Thus the Lawful Neutral Modron of Mechanus and the Chaotic Neutral Slaadi of Limbo are "Primordials", rather than Celestials or Fiends. These LN and CN beings kinda already do have Elemental flavor and imagery. The True Neutral Primordials are especially Elemental. The relationship between Primordials and Elementals resembles the relationship between Corellon and Elves. Corellon is actually an Elf, albeit an Astral thought of an Elf preexisting the physicalization elves within the Feywild. Likewise, Primordials actually are Elementals − and the True Neutral Primordials more clearly Fire, Air, Water, and Earth − albeit an Astral thought of elements preexisting the materialization of Elemental matter. In this context, the [B]Genasi[/B] can repurpose as a species who have Primordial Ancestry − function as the [B]True Neutral[/B] angelics, sotospeak, between Aasimar and Tiefling. Yeah, I agree. There is value in having a core humanimal option that is fluid, and better able to personalize to the players humanimal concept. [/QUOTE]
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