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<blockquote data-quote="Benjamin Olson" data-source="post: 9740064" data-attributes="member: 6988941"><p>If you are a business and the person calling your decision dumb or greedy has spent the prior half decade or so buying nearly all your products it might be advantageous to suck it up and listen to them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think on this particular pretty minor issue likely we can go back. The next rules supplement can have rules for custom races and/or tables can ubiquitously houserule this very obvious thing to houserule (the pattern for constructing backgrounds is dead simple, actually easier than 5e which had the special ability). We'll see how things shake out as more veteran 5e tables switch over in the coming years. The culture of actual play very well may develop in favor of custom backgrounds.</p><p></p><p>But you're right, in general we can't go back to 2014 5e Classic, my preferred system, being the ubiquitous most common system one can always easily find a table for and which new players flock to. 2024 New 5e is here to stay for the length of its run.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I choose both. Having had to slog through a new PHB riddled with unnecessary, sometimes arbitrary changes, with major changes hiding under familiar names, and buried in a sea of slight wording changes, I'm damned well going to both play the system I worked to learn and complain about the things I don't like about it. And while I certainly don't put every change I dislike down to avarice or incompetence, when the shoe occasionally fits I might mention such things. To be clear I don't ascribe either to any individual designers (the "avarice" wouldn't even be to their own benefit), but rather to the collective entity of WotC. A team, working with deadlines, tunnel vision, and corporate meddling, can make mistakes and be less than the sum of its parts. </p><p></p><p>Heck, for this particular change I suppose it now occurs to me that there is a third possible explanation of "it just didn't fit neatly enough into the formating or layout of the backgrounds section. Things happen for manifold silly reasons on a big group project.</p><p></p><p>I'm just going to mention at this point that I felt like you were grasping at straws to justify a pretty objectively bad change from the beginning of this exchange, and now that you've shifted rhetorical goalposts to making this about defending the honor of WotC designers or whatever, I feel like its run it's course. Have a nice day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Benjamin Olson, post: 9740064, member: 6988941"] If you are a business and the person calling your decision dumb or greedy has spent the prior half decade or so buying nearly all your products it might be advantageous to suck it up and listen to them. I think on this particular pretty minor issue likely we can go back. The next rules supplement can have rules for custom races and/or tables can ubiquitously houserule this very obvious thing to houserule (the pattern for constructing backgrounds is dead simple, actually easier than 5e which had the special ability). We'll see how things shake out as more veteran 5e tables switch over in the coming years. The culture of actual play very well may develop in favor of custom backgrounds. But you're right, in general we can't go back to 2014 5e Classic, my preferred system, being the ubiquitous most common system one can always easily find a table for and which new players flock to. 2024 New 5e is here to stay for the length of its run. I choose both. Having had to slog through a new PHB riddled with unnecessary, sometimes arbitrary changes, with major changes hiding under familiar names, and buried in a sea of slight wording changes, I'm damned well going to both play the system I worked to learn and complain about the things I don't like about it. And while I certainly don't put every change I dislike down to avarice or incompetence, when the shoe occasionally fits I might mention such things. To be clear I don't ascribe either to any individual designers (the "avarice" wouldn't even be to their own benefit), but rather to the collective entity of WotC. A team, working with deadlines, tunnel vision, and corporate meddling, can make mistakes and be less than the sum of its parts. Heck, for this particular change I suppose it now occurs to me that there is a third possible explanation of "it just didn't fit neatly enough into the formating or layout of the backgrounds section. Things happen for manifold silly reasons on a big group project. I'm just going to mention at this point that I felt like you were grasping at straws to justify a pretty objectively bad change from the beginning of this exchange, and now that you've shifted rhetorical goalposts to making this about defending the honor of WotC designers or whatever, I feel like its run it's course. Have a nice day. [/QUOTE]
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