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<blockquote data-quote="Savage Wombat" data-source="post: 6391097" data-attributes="member: 1932">This may be true - but it's only true because WotC decided to make it true.&nbsp; It's not an unfortunate fact of life that we who encounter salamanders and their offspring have to deal with.&nbsp; It's just a particular thing they made up.&nbsp; (Well, I'm told the original Fiend Folio submitter made up.)We're using human standards to relate to them because, as we read in their entry, they have human-like intelligence and are capable of human emotions like jealousy.&nbsp; It's like watching Star Trek and saying that we have no reason to assume Klingons care about their children.&nbsp; And again - there's nothing in the entry that makes them particularly monstrous or inimical to humanity apart from alignment.&nbsp; It doesn't say they eat humans, attack humans for treasure, capture and torture trespassers, or anything.&nbsp; It's all about their enmity with other fire creatures.&nbsp; People on this forum like to compare the fire snakes to facehuggers because it effectively says &quot;they're monsters, I am allowed to kill them.&quot;Over the generations of D&amp;D, many gamers and writers have become disgusted with the idea of assuming all non-human monsters are enemies and valid targets.&nbsp; It's why most critters are engaged in some sort of actual villainy, like banditry, to make it OK to fight them.&nbsp; There's nothing in the entry suggesting that fire snakes do anything to humans - it's just an assumption posters are making &quot;because they're evil monsters&quot;.People keep arguing that there's no reason not to be able to kill juvenile salamanders.&nbsp; I'm pointing out there's no reason TO be able to kill juvenile salamanders.&nbsp; Leave them out of the book, and the game suffers not one iota.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Savage Wombat, post: 6391097, member: 1932"] This may be true - but it's only true because WotC decided to make it true. It's not an unfortunate fact of life that we who encounter salamanders and their offspring have to deal with. It's just a particular thing they made up. (Well, I'm told the original Fiend Folio submitter made up.) We're using human standards to relate to them because, as we read in their entry, they have human-like intelligence and are capable of human emotions like jealousy. It's like watching Star Trek and saying that we have no reason to assume Klingons care about their children. And again - there's nothing in the entry that makes them particularly monstrous or inimical to humanity apart from alignment. It doesn't say they eat humans, attack humans for treasure, capture and torture trespassers, or anything. It's all about their enmity with other fire creatures. People on this forum like to compare the fire snakes to facehuggers because it effectively says "they're monsters, I am allowed to kill them." Over the generations of D&D, many gamers and writers have become disgusted with the idea of assuming all non-human monsters are enemies and valid targets. It's why most critters are engaged in some sort of actual villainy, like banditry, to make it OK to fight them. There's nothing in the entry suggesting that fire snakes do anything to humans - it's just an assumption posters are making "because they're evil monsters". People keep arguing that there's no reason not to be able to kill juvenile salamanders. I'm pointing out there's no reason TO be able to kill juvenile salamanders. Leave them out of the book, and the game suffers not one iota. [/QUOTE]

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