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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Owen K.C. Stephens" data-source="post: 2916794" data-attributes="member: 3190">Okay. Look in the 3.5 MM. Look at the ogre. There's a classed version right there. The precedent is set, the MM series includes classed versions of monsters. There are several more of those throughout the book. If they hadn't been included, there would have been room for at least 5 more monsters, maybe more.But since many races are likely to have lots of classes examples, the MM IV gives them to you. Also, it presents some of the most popular creatures in the new monster format, which is popular with a lot of folks.And... half the book?Elf, drow = 5 pages at mostGithyanki = 4 pages "Gnoll = 3 pages (including a lair) "Lizardfolk = 7 pages "Ogre = 5 pages "Orc = 5 pages "Yaun-ti = 4 pages "That's 32 pages. Less than 15% of the page count! A far, far cry from half the book.Even the Spawn of Tiamat only take up 36 pages, and that's for 14 monsters and a lair! together those elements are 68 pages, still less than half the book. Together, they're not quite a third of the book.Now if you think you're going to hate and dislike those elements, you may not want to buy the book. Same deal for someone who doesn't like outsiders picking up the Fiend Folio. But this -isn't- a huge change in what we get when we bought previous MM-type books.</blockquote>