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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Samurai" data-source="post: 1798545" data-attributes="member: 3850">They don't really give up any caster levels compared to a Mystic Theurge.  At 20th level, a Mystic Theurge will have a grand total of 30 caster levels (maybe 15/15, maybe 17/13, but 30 total).  They will have very few class abilities, only what they picked up as a lvl 3 Cleric or Wizard.A TrNec will also have 30 total caster levels, but it will have to be 15/15, no other combo.  They will have numerous class abilities, including 56 spell levels worth of free spells, rebuke undead as a 17th lvl caster (instead of 3rd-7th for a Theurge, depending upon his class split), a +4 caster level  on all necromantic spells and abilities (including all of the 56 free spell levels worth), and so on.  There is really no trade off in caster levels for special abilities by 20th level.</blockquote>