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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ruemere" data-source="post: 1798916" data-attributes="member: 5515">Ari,I'm impressed. And if you remember certain little thread at SSS fora on certain prestige class, you'll know why.Exactly. In any given situation, MT and TN are going to perform admirably, yet worse than any specialized core class. They are also going to get a worse ability array (does anyone wonder anymore why point-buy may improve game balance?) and, at lower levels, they are unlikely to wield spells which turn the tide of a conflict (Dimension Door, Ice Storm, Neutralize Poison, Raise Dead and a few other 4-6 level spells), whereas a typical wizard or cleric will cast them with gusto.Oh, and don't forget Miracle, Wish and Limited Wish. Can't they mimick certain spells when cast?With regard to MT - TN comparison, TN seems to come as a winner, however... it's been quite a time since MT was released. TN could be viewed as souped up MT variation, a result of playtesting. And much more restricted... correct me with I'm wrong, but it's much more difficult to get a death god to sponsor your divine abilities than <insert suitable deity of player preference> for MT.Regards,Ruemere</blockquote>