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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Asmor" data-source="post: 3656651" data-attributes="member: 1154">I actually threw 4 carnage demons and 4 vivisectors against my party tonight. The vivisectors were carrying the carnage demons <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />They were spotted by a flying PC, they landed around a bend on the road, and battle began. Unfortunately, due to poor placement, they couldn't charge the PC who they could all see, but could get to him in a double move, and even if it wasn't the wisest move tactically the carnage demons all surrounded that particular PC, who had readied an action to attack. Seemed like what a bunch of stupid, battle-hungry demons would do. They all died before even getting their first attack, although that's largely because I completely forgot about their DR (the PC they surrounded dealt 19 to one, cleaved, and dealt 19 to the other). DR aside, I just don't like how fragile they are. 19 HP is nothing.The vivisectors were a lot more interesting... They basically turned invisible, attacked for a few rounds, and then used their last swift invisibility of the day to run away. I still made the party try attacking and rolling miss chances until their next round when they didn't see the vivisectors "blink" (reappear and then use a swift action to turn invis).</blockquote>

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