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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6348956" data-attributes="member: 6774887">You would still be better off with any other combination of defensive feats. Tough for +2 HP per levelResilient for +1 to a stat and proficiency in its savesHeavy Armor Mastery for DR equal to your Con mod and +1 StrDurable is the last defensive feat I would ever choose given those options (not to mention a flat +2 Con).Now, does anyone have an example of a "roll" in 5e referencing the die roll + total mods. I don't think there are any. All the references to roll single out the die roll itself ignoring all modifiers. The halfling lucky trait, the rogue reliable talent, great weapon mastery and fighting style, HD healing, etc all use language that avoids calling a roll + mods a "roll". This is different than pre 5e D&D and would imply that a 20 Con fighter always gets 15 HP per hit die if he has the durable feat. The feat is still junk though.</blockquote>