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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7575255" data-attributes="member: 6919838">It's still resolved eith an athletics check. "Task" has no mechanical meaning. Just like the second graph let's you gain advsntage on an "attack roll" the first graph let's you gain advsntage on an "ability check."Look check out sage compendium where it's made clear...  Here is just one bit... it clarifies that the grapple roll is an ability check. The answers before it cover it more vaguely. But basically, just because an ability check is part of an attsck, it's still an ability check, not an attack roll.When you make a Strength (Athletics) check to grapple or shove someone, are you making an attack roll? No. That check is an ability check, so game effects tied to attack rolls don’t apply to it. Going back to an earlier question, the hex spell could be used to diminish a grappler’s effective-ness. And if the grappler’s target is under the effect of the Dodge action, that action doesn’t inhibit the grapple, since Dodge doesn’t affect ability checks.Also notice from SACAre attack rolls and saving throws basically specialized ability checks? They aren’t. It’s easy to mistake the three rolls as three faces of the same thing, because they each involve rolling a d20, adding any modifiers, and compar-ing the total to a Difficulty Class, and they’re all subject to advantage and disadvantage. In short, they share the same procedure for determining success or failure.Despite this common procedure, the three rolls are sep-arate from each other. If something in the game, like the guidance spell, affects one of them, the other two aren’t affected unless the rules specifically say so. The next few questions touch on this point again.Can you get a critical hit on an ability check? For ex-ample, on a grapple attempt, does a critical win, or the highest number? Ability checks don’t score critical hits. Attack rolls do.****If none of that is at all convincing look at the DMG rules for when granting advantage is appropriate and the fourth bullet Previous actions (whether taken by the character making the attempt or some other creature) improve the chances of success.If that's not enough, forget it.</blockquote>

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