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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 755418" data-attributes="member: 1656">A bound rogue is not flat-footed, but he does lose his Dex bonus to AC for being helpless.You have to be careful about the use of the term &quot;flat-footed&quot; - it has a very specific definition.&nbsp; A rogue with Uncanny Dodge can be flat-footed... he just doesn't lose his Dex bonus because of it.Now, from the description of the Climb skill:&quot;Since the character can't move to avoid a blow while climbing, enemies can attack the character as if the character were stunned: An attacker gets a +2 bonus, and the character loses any Dexterity bonus to Armor Class.&quot;Thus, if the ladder had a Climb DC - even if it's 0 - the rogue can't use Mobility.Note that a heavily armoured character could still conceivably fail a DC 0 Climb check, so it's not the same as &quot;No DC&quot;.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 755418, member: 1656"] A bound rogue is not flat-footed, but he does lose his Dex bonus to AC for being helpless. You have to be careful about the use of the term "flat-footed" - it has a very specific definition. A rogue with Uncanny Dodge [i]can[/i] be flat-footed... he just doesn't lose his Dex bonus because of it. Now, from the description of the Climb skill: "Since the character can't move to avoid a blow while climbing, enemies can attack the character as if the character were stunned: An attacker gets a +2 bonus, and the character loses any Dexterity bonus to Armor Class." Thus, if the ladder had a Climb DC - even if it's 0 - the rogue can't use Mobility. Note that a heavily armoured character could still conceivably fail a DC 0 Climb check, so it's not the same as "No DC". -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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