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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1216036" data-attributes="member: 5890">I'm wondering why wizard or sorceror don't fit here. They seem perfect with the right combination of skills, feats and spells.People always seem to get hung up on the monk using his bare hands, and forget that you can do this... Monk(depending on the supernatural abilities you want or don't want)/rogue/fighter is an interesting multiclass.See above>>Wonders what you mean when you say 'urban ranger'<<I'd say that a rogue/ranger multiclass works fine. You want someone with social skills who can track and fight - is that right? Or just a ranger with a good charisma. Or an aristocrat/bard (which isn't nearly as bad as some people think).Definately - fighter. Or monk/fighter if you really don't want to wear armour.Or just fighter. He's brave and couragous and can own a horse. Or if you're aiming at the socially adept knight, aristocrat is pretty good (multiclass with fighter for some feats most likely)Or a cleric/wizard/rogue multiclass.This is really just a choice of spells.You probably want to avoid heavy armour too.My view: If you're after a character which does something that's IMPOSSIBLE under the current classes, then perhaps it's worth changing, altering or creating a class for you. Offhand I don't think such a concept exists while remaining within the fantasy mileu.If you just want to avoid suboptimal choices, and feel that a new or modified class is essential, then I very much doubt that you're correct. There's pretty much a class combination for every concept I can imagine. Almost all of them are viable, and if they're not viable in every situation, that's because you've painted yourself into a corner. Like:"I want to be a non-supernatural martial artist who never uses weapons, but can still penetrate damage resistance without having to rely on simply doing a lot of damage"Sorry. Not going to happen. If you systematically rule out all the possible mechanics for doing your concept, expect to have that concept translate to something that's unplayable.</blockquote>

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