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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7000389">I've thought a lot about the pile-on effect as well.&nbsp; Again, false negatives would help alleviate it.But I'll suggest an inverse problem: the guy with the highest skill always making the roll.&nbsp; &quot;Oh, it's an Arcana thing.&nbsp; Have Beelzebub check.&quot;&nbsp; I'd like to see knowledge checks become more participatory and cooperative.&nbsp; Sure, you don't want everybody to roll on every check, but I'd prefer the Wizard, the Warlock, and the Cleric all cooperate on solving the puzzle.In my proposed system, even if Beelzebub makes his check, there's an incentive for the others to roll as backup.&nbsp; If they all succeed and they all get the same answer, great.&nbsp; But what if the other two succeed and get a different answer from Beelzebub.&nbsp; Was Beelzebub mistaken, or are the two with the lower skill?&nbsp; Seems to me that's what actually happens when smart people are trying to answer something, even if one of them is objectively &quot;smarter&quot; than the others.&nbsp; (Otherwise you'd all just be taking notes whenever I post and not giving me so much lip.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7000389"] I've thought a lot about the pile-on effect as well. Again, false negatives would help alleviate it. But I'll suggest an inverse problem: the guy with the highest skill always making the roll. "Oh, it's an Arcana thing. Have Beelzebub check." I'd like to see knowledge checks become more participatory and cooperative. Sure, you don't want everybody to roll on every check, but I'd prefer the Wizard, the Warlock, and the Cleric all cooperate on solving the puzzle. In my proposed system, even if Beelzebub makes his check, there's an incentive for the others to roll as backup. If they all succeed and they all get the same answer, great. But what if the other two succeed and get a [I]different[/I] answer from Beelzebub. Was Beelzebub mistaken, or are the two with the lower skill? Seems to me that's what actually happens when smart people are trying to answer something, even if one of them is objectively "smarter" than the others. (Otherwise you'd all just be taking notes whenever I post and not giving me so much lip.) [/QUOTE]

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