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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Trainz" data-source="post: 1924979" data-attributes="member: 2122">Greetings from the great white north...I bought d20 modern and played with my peeps from 6 to 12 months. We never played again.Now at first, I thought that was because I didn't like modern RPG's, but during the past few days, I've had a craving to start GMing modern games again. But then, I feel some pavlovian shiver crawling up my spine as I consider doing the game.And then it dawned on me: it's not Modern gaming that I don't like, it's the d20 modern system ITSELF.Basically, i don't like the stat based class system that you must take for a few levels before taking the class you really want to play. In fact, I absolutely despise it. It's a hassle to create NPC's. If a player of mine wants to play an 8th level soldier, well I want him to have a single classed 8th level soldier, not some munchkinised 2nd level X - 3rd level Y - 3rd level soldier. IMHO, it's an abomination. An utterly despicable revolting abomination. Note the "IMHO". I might be the only one feeling that way.Second, the monetary system is weird. It seems smooth, but I found that in the end I didn't like it. The players don't have a real sense of what their cash really is.Third, I read the chapter on vehicles three times, and finally decided that there wouldn't be car chases IMCs. That's sad, because everyone knows that car chases are an integral part of any modern game.NOW...The purpose of this thread is NOT to complain. I am grateful that WotC did d20 modern. That said, that game is definitively not for me; but I still want to play modern d20 system games.SO...Is there a published game out there that, given what I typed above, would satisfy my needs ? I do not need rules for magic, psionics, fantasy races and all that. If I eventually want to integrate these items, it is quite simple for me to simply grab my D&D PHB. I just want a simple but dynamic and fun modern system.AND, if possible, I want that system to be 3.5 compatible.To all those that will try to help me out, a humongous thank you in advance. Know that your assistance is grandly appreciated and you have my eternal gratitude.</blockquote>

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