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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Troll Wizard" data-source="post: 2617879" data-attributes="member: 17513">Game System/Books: D20 Modern/Urban Arcana/Green Ronin D20 Modern booksSetting: Started out earth-based D20 slightly-future tech, then morphed into Star Gates....world exploringMagic Type:  Mage class (my character)...The source of most magic comes from the elf world(s), so most of our items comes from elven sources.  No other worlds seem to be have any "magic/arcane" history unless they were visited by elfs.My experience and feelings about D20 Modern "magic", is that is very utility-tool based/focused.  Damage and combat-wise, my experience has been that it is weak versus modern guns and once you get into future tech - very weak.  With few exceptions I have rarely cast Fireball and maybe once lightning bolt.  My best offensive spell came from a Green Ronin book - "rocket launcher."  There is no "ancient" or cthulhu feel to magic, at best its a technology that no one can explain.  I guess I feel that it's very sterile in its' application because of the spell names (autopilot, prot versus bullets, machine invisibility, etc.).What was I expecting?  I don't know but something is missing within "magic" to make it mysterious, occult or just supernatural besides the spell names.  On the other hand it could just be me.Not exactly "Modern", I really enjoyed Deadlands' (original system) magic system, its mechanics made it "feel" very occult.</blockquote>