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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shallown" data-source="post: 1218062" data-attributes="member: 1368">Well if you design the weapon you can easiy say all focus/spec apply to it from Spiked chain. I thought it would be cool you get TWF but only when you use it that way. your trading out reach for that and you could only change it the same as power attack and expertise Ie it last until the next round.I see what you were trying for I just think it would be cool to swingout of the shadows and do it. I honestly don't care much for the whole idea. I mean if your a swashbuckler guy then yeah but if your a tank with a chain (which can be done) it doesn't jive.Here is the PrC I did. I doubt you would want to use it but there might be some abilities you can trade in or out with master of chains. Of course it is over powered and not updated to 3.5 but here it is. The Black Chains    The Black Chains are members of the city's thieves guild but operate as a self contained group. They seek to maintain the status quo of the city. The guild has learned any major disruption to the city's normal routine affects the guild, usually to its detriment. The Black Chains operate from a militant stance to control and guide any major upsets to the city. Plague, invasion or other events are addressed by the Black Chains. They travel outside the city and may join groups of adventurers and other organizations  that one would not normally associate with the thieves guild but a Black Chain will still seek to control the group to their own ends ie the Guild's ends. Those in the guild recognize a Black Chain by their darkly colored spiked chains.    Since the Black Chains are a more militant arm of the thieves guild they sometimes act as shock troops for the guild in keeping the guild strong and dealing with splinter thief guilds or those that do not "tow the line" for the guild. Members of the Guild are often trained/groomed for the Black Chains.    Most Black chains are trained fighters and rogues though some other classes can advance into this prestige class it is unusual. RequirementsBAB : +7Skills : Tumble 5 Ranks, Bluff 5 Ranks, Gather information 5 RanksFeats : Exotic Weapon (Spiked Chain), Weapon Focus (Spiked Chain), Expertise ; Improved Trip or Improved Disarm Alignment: Any Non-LawfulOther : +2d6 in sneak attack.Class skills : Balance (Dex), Bluff (Cha), Climb (Str), Craft (Int), Escape Artist (Dex), Gather Information (Cha), Hide (Dex), Innuendo (Cha), Jump (Str), Listen (Wis), Move Silent (Dex), Profession (Int), Search (Int), Spot (Wis), Tumble (Dex)Skill Points : 6 + Int Modifier.Hit Dice : 1d8Starting Feats : Alertness, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Improvised chains/Flexible weapon), May take Weapon Specialization with Spiked chain using a normal Feat.BAB good (cleric)Saves Ref good others poor.  class abilities1st - disarm trip bonus / sneak attack +1d62nd- climb fighting / challenged tumble3rd - extended tumble / improved fient / D/T bonus4th - Double chain / sneak attack +2d65th - D/T bonus / rogue special ability6th - canny focus7th - D/T bonus / Imp Critical / Sneak attack +3d68th - rogue special ability9th - Imp canny focus / D/T bonus10th - Sneak attack +4d6Disarm & Trip Bonus -  On Trip and Disarm attacks, when contesting against opponent gain a bonus equal to +1 for each odd level of Black Chain, So +1 at 1, 3, 5, 7, 9. This bonus only applies when using a Spiked Chain or Flexible weapon (chain).Sneak Attack - Works as Rogue Sneak attack and stacks.Climb Fighting - Suffers no penalties when climbing and fighting. Opponents gain no advantage. (Works as Master of Chains Climb fighting)Challenged Tumble - When someone attempts to Tumble through an area threatened by the Black Chain they make a normal tumble roll but still suffer an attack of opportunity. If the Black chain can make one ie has not performed their limit this round or is not flat footed (though combat reflexes allows an attack in this case) etc. The Tumble roll or the normal AC, which ever is higher, is the AC the Black chain must hit during this attack of opportunity. (Example - A rogue tumbles around a Black Chain, he normally has an AC of 18 but rolls a Tumble check at 23. The Black Chain can roll to hit an AC of 23 even though this would normally be a successful tumble)Extended Tumble - This allows the tumble movement to increase from 20 feet  to 30 feet but cannot exceed the Black Chain's normal movement rate.Improved Feint - Feinting using the Bluff skill becomes a Move equivalent action instead of a Standard action. (As per Gladiator)Double Chain - The character can use their Spiked chain as a double weapon and gains the Ambidexterity and Two weapon feat when doing so. The threat range/reach for the spiked chain drops to 5 feet when the weapon is used in this manner for that round.Rogue Special ability - The Black chain may choose one of the Rogue Special abilities normally gained by a 10th level Rogue.Canny Focus  - By focusing their mind on a single pursuit/task the Black chain can add their Intelligence modifier to a Saving throw, Skill, Base attack, Armor class or Stat check as an insight bonus. Used as a free action and lasting a round ( or perhaps more than a round for some skill use at the GM's discretion ie for skills requiring more than one round (such as disable device) to be reasonably executed but seldom more than one roll in any case). It is usable once per level in Black Chain per day.Increased Critical - Add 1 to the Critical Range of the Spiked chain, stacks with Improved critical.Improved Canny Focus - May now apply the Bonus to two separate rolls in a round as a Free action and number of uses per day increases by 3 Plus positive Wis modifier (Reflecting the will power required to focus on a task)</blockquote>

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